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Post by Leena on Jan 22, 2015 14:06:23 GMT 8
So number two. I love alcohol. I love narcotics and I hate meth though. I do love a good "Scooby Snack" though. And narcotics. I really hope the best for everyone in AA, NA or any 12 step program. Beat it. You have my respect. I don't really want to beat it though. Sorry my dear friends but I would rather it beat me. I love alcohol too, and don't want to totally quit either. You don't really have to, and despite what some say, you can go from drinking all day, to being able to stay sober enough to keep a 9-5. I have, and I don't want to ever go back to drinking first thing in the morning again. I also don't think I will, and I usually wait until after 5 on my days off as well, it's fun to go shopping sober. I even like taking a few days off from drinking every now and then. I'm trying to push myself to drink even less, because I'm trying to lose weight, and that is a good motivator. Low carb diet with however much dry wine I feel like seems to be working fairly well, even if dry wine isn't exactly low carb, it's lower carb than beer, which is what I mostly drank before. Shots of liquor are zero carb, though I tend to drink more of them, though I've never really been a hard liquor person, also it's harder to keep a count of how many you had. Dry wine isn't something one generally drinks fast. I'm still not planning on quitting totally, though I respect those that do also.
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Post by Taka on Jan 22, 2015 19:31:22 GMT 8
i can drink dry wine pretty fast. the sweet and fruity ones are worse. one of the tastier low carb tricks i learned from my brother, is rum and diet coke. i'm having to give up on drinking if i'm going to lose weight. i'll have to go to a city to get anything other than beer. but alcohol is always better as a snack, so i'm not sad. it's much less addictive than sugar...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 19:46:15 GMT 8
I used to drink a lot, but it was out of boredom more than anything. I actually ended up in jail, but not long, thankfully. I did have to endure a probation, though. In Texas we have something called DIVERT for first-time offenders. You don't have to spend any real jail time; you just do community service, take classes, and for three months you cannot drive. After those three months you have to have a breathalyzer on your car. If you make it through the program for the whole year the offense is removed and eventually expunged from your record completely.
After that experience I've rarely touched alcohol. Here and there, but never to get drunk. I don't even like the feeling of it anymore. They say that alcoholism runs in the family. If that's true then neither of my parents were ever dependent. My dad has always been a daily drinker, but he rarely touches it anymore now; no AA needed. My mom could never handle alcohol. Her drugs of choice were narcotics. When she got sober she quit everything, though.
Of all the things I've tried I never once understood addiction, because none of it had that affect on me. The only reason my mom has backslid is due to depression from losing her job and her mobility from her accident. I haven't spoken to her in probably two months now, and there's nothing anyone can do except let her do what she wants. I wish I could be sadder than I am, but all I can do is pray that she snaps out of it. If she ends up killing herself then it was her own problem. It would tear me up, for sure, but at least her suffering would be over. I'd rather her be in a better place — wherever that is — than living like this.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 4:22:49 GMT 8
So number two. I love alcohol. I love narcotics and I hate meth though. I do love a good "Scooby Snack" though. And narcotics. I really hope the best for everyone in AA, NA or any 12 step program. Beat it. You have my respect. I don't really want to beat it though. Sorry my dear friends but I would rather it beat me. I love alcohol too, and don't want to totally quit either. You don't really have to, and despite what some say, you can go from drinking all day, to being able to stay sober enough to keep a 9-5. I have, and I don't want to ever go back to drinking first thing in the morning again. I also don't think I will, and I usually wait until after 5 on my days off as well, it's fun to go shopping sober. I even like taking a few days off from drinking every now and then. I'm trying to push myself to drink even less, because I'm trying to lose weight, and that is a good motivator. Low carb diet with however much dry wine I feel like seems to be working fairly well, even if dry wine isn't exactly low carb, it's lower carb than beer, which is what I mostly drank before. Shots of liquor are zero carb, though I tend to drink more of them, though I've never really been a hard liquor person, also it's harder to keep a count of how many you had. Dry wine isn't something one generally drinks fast. I'm still not planning on quitting totally, though I respect those that do also. SHHH. This is just a little secret of mine. I have being drunk. I love buzzing and when I get to a level that feels good I will maintain it. I do have a reputation to uphold though so I do sometimes act way more inebriated than I actually am. I don't like the liquor either. In a mixed drink it's OK but shots? Nah. Now a good single malt Scotch on the rocks is really good. Even Jameson which is an Irish Blended whiskey is good on the rocks but again moderation is the key to me being able to maintain. I can probably count on both hands how many times I have been totally messed up and this is over 40 someodd years. But beer is good but that will pack on the pounds. Hell, in my younger days I very rarely drank anything. I usually partook of the herb. No hangovers, just laugh and have a good time, never lost any coordination. But that was then and now I hear it is way stronger than it used to be. But I can't do that anymore though because I still drive from time to time and subject to drug tests.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 4:31:11 GMT 8
i can drink dry wine pretty fast. the sweet and fruity ones are worse. one of the tastier low carb tricks i learned from my brother, is rum and diet coke. i'm having to give up on drinking if i'm going to lose weight. i'll have to go to a city to get anything other than beer. but alcohol is always better as a snack, so i'm not sad. it's much less addictive than sugar... Oh God, dry wine. Talk about "cotton mouth". I prefer the strong sweet kind. Port wine at about 18% or Sherry at about the same. It is not far from being a liqueur. OK so this is me and only me but I find alcohol way less addictive than caffeine. Coffee I have to have or if not I get headaches. If I don't drink then no big deal. If need be I can always act drunk. That damned reputation thing you know. I have been stone cold sober before but had to act messed up just because it was expected. I downed a bottle of whiskey before but it was actually tea in the bottle. It did take me a while to get the color just right and to match. Just a prop. Some people eat it up. Anyone that will down a bottle of Jack Daniel's is either suicidal, way too much immune to the effects of alcohol or just plain crazy. I saw one person do it and he almost died from alcohol poisoning. But the sweet strong wine is the best way to go. Kind of like Grape Kool-Aid with a kick.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 4:37:39 GMT 8
I used to drink a lot, but it was out of boredom more than anything. I actually ended up in jail, but not long, thankfully. I did have to endure a probation, though. In Texas we have something called DIVERT for first-time offenders. You don't have to spend any real jail time; you just do community service, take classes, and for three months you cannot drive. After those three months you have to have a breathalyzer on your car. If you make it through the program for the whole year the offense is removed and eventually expunged from your record completely.
After that experience I've rarely touched alcohol. Here and there, but never to get drunk. I don't even like the feeling of it anymore. They say that alcoholism runs in the family. If that's true then neither of my parents were ever dependent. My had has always been a daily drinker, but he rarely touches it anymore now; no AA needed. My mom could never handle alcohol. Her drugs of choice were narcotics. When she got sober she quit everything, though.
Of all the things I've tried I never once understood addiction, because none of it had that affect on me. The only reason my mom has backslid is due to depression from losing her job and her mobility from her accident. I haven't spoken to her in probably two months now, and there's nothing anyone can do except let her do what she wants. I wish I could be sadder than I am, but all I can do is pray that she snaps out of it. If she ends up killing herself then it was her own problem. It would tear me up, for sure, but at least her suffering would be over. I'd rather her be in a better place — wherever that is — than living like this. Some people just have a predisposition to addictions. Well all do. Some are addicted to the bottle, some the needle, some the pill, some to sex, some to the bible and the list goes on. Being addicted to adrenaline rushes, being addicted to whatever. Addiction is something no one is really immune to. OK so I am definitely addicted to caffeine and nicotine. I have quit smoking several times successfully but realized I truly enjoyed it. Caffeine, I am just addicted to period. Without it, like I said earlier, I get headaches which means my body is dependant upon it. I don't need it all day but in the mornings is when I go through a whole pot of coffee. BTW, caffeine is a drug too.
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Post by Taka on Jan 23, 2015 5:11:12 GMT 8
caffeine is the world's most popular stimulant.
and i know about the calories in alcohol. but for some odd reason, it doesn't do much to add weight for people on a low carb diet.
the most potentially deasly drink i've tasted is fugu sake. i let others taste it before i did, just to be sure. it was delicious. funny how dried fish can make rice wine taste better.
but it feels a little weird to be talking about alcohol rather than addiction in this thread...
did you know by the way, that norwegian farmers had to brew beer for christmas for quite many years. it was illegal for a farmer not to brew it. and even shameful to not get drunk during beer tasting. a really odd culture, probably from even before the viking age, and has stayed almost until today.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 5:18:40 GMT 8
Ha. Port wine only has 94 calories compared to other red wines. Oh well. We need calories for energy so... Cool sight though Ativan.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 5:25:01 GMT 8
caffeine is the world's most popular stimulant. and i know about the calories in alcohol. but for some odd reason, it doesn't do much to add weight for people on a low carb diet. the most potentially deasly drink i've tasted is fugu sake. i let others taste it before i did, just to be sure. it was delicious. funny how dried fish can make rice wine taste better. but it feels a little weird to be talking about alcohol rather than addiction in this thread... did you know by the way, that norwegian farmers had to brew beer for christmas for quite many years. it was illegal for a farmer not to brew it. and even shameful to not get drunk during beer tasting. a really odd culture, probably from even before the viking age, and has stayed almost until today. I think the whole history of beer was to keep the grain from rotting after harvesting it. Bread only last so long and then it gets moldy. The grains will get something that I can't remember but it will really mess you up. So the preserve the grain they made it into a drink containing enough alcohol to sterilize it and provide calories in the winter months. I have been to breweries picking up loads of bear and have been to bakeries picking up loads of bread. Funny because both smell the same but the breweries is a little more "sour" smelling. Ok so now I am racking my brain because rye will grow a fungus that is hallucinagenically worst than LSD and maybe borderline PCP. Maybe we need a "head thread" Or a bad boy and bad girl thread.
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Post by Ativan Prescribed on Jan 23, 2015 6:16:35 GMT 8
caffeine is the world's most popular stimulant. and i know about the calories in alcohol. but for some odd reason, it doesn't do much to add weight for people on a low carb diet. the most potentially deasly drink i've tasted is fugu sake. i let others taste it before i did, just to be sure. it was delicious. funny how dried fish can make rice wine taste better. but it feels a little weird to be talking about alcohol rather than addiction in this thread... did you know by the way, that norwegian farmers had to brew beer for christmas for quite many years. it was illegal for a farmer not to brew it. and even shameful to not get drunk during beer tasting. a really odd culture, probably from even before the viking age, and has stayed almost until today. Alcohol is a carb. It adds weight much the same way sugar does. Both cause more weight gain than eating a similar amount of fatty food. Your body will use that up and store the sugar fat for later. Beer was a way to have a supply of drinkable water. They would re-brew it until it had just enough alcohol to make it safe to drink, but not enough to get drunk. Kids beer... That they could also get drunk on the first batch was a bonus. But it was also diluted enough to make water safe. All those old open wells weren't safe. George Washington made a lot of beer. Look into his biography, after being a General and President, he had a good life that he lived. Grain can have some deadly fungus growing on it if it isn't stored right. Turning it over was needed to stop that fungus and mold from growing in the corners. From biblical times to the Salem witch hunts, it seems it was all about mold growing in the grain stored wrong. Lots of Scandinavians around me growing up. Those traditions are still here in some families. A lot of small towns are very ethnic from those regions as well as Europe. I used to be an honorary Czech in one town and German in the next one over. Used to be a lot of small breweries with handed down recipes around here. I grew up next to an old Norwegian farmer who brewed his own beer. I worked for him and his son's dairy farm. I used to have lunch and dinner there so often, I started to talk with that same thick accent he had.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 7:47:03 GMT 8
but it feels a little weird to be talking about alcohol rather than addiction in What a hoot, the way this thread went. Have fun dears, we deal with enough stress anyway, and us sober folk ain't gonna drink. I was into black Russians, amaretto stingers, 151 spikes coffee, khalua spiked coffee, half a bottle of wine in my stew, a whole one in bed... It was fun. And then, it ate me for lunch. Drink a toast for trans my dears, revel and live life for all its got. :-) Trinity
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Post by Taka on Jan 23, 2015 15:03:22 GMT 8
alcohol os an ancohol, not a corbohydrate. there's quite a difference there. distilled alcohol contains no carbs at all. rum and diet coke will therefor contain practically no carbs at all. alcohol does contain a whole lot of energy though. calories that will help add weight if you drink it too often. but it will not disturb the changes in metabolization on a low carb diet.
alcohol isn't healthier on a low carb diet though. even if the purer forms contain no carbs, it can still damage the liver and psyche if abused. just like how sugar damages other parts of the body when abused, but for some reason it's actually legal to sell any amount of sugar even to minors...
the reason why norwegians brew beer has to do with fertility ritea of a very old time. the water in our country has always been good, even in rather open wells. the point of drinking around here, is to get drunk. definitely to facilitate the sort of orgies that an arab was once both disgusted and fascinated by, way back in the viking age.
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Post by Taka on Jan 27, 2015 16:09:09 GMT 8
i thought that was something anyone could figure out on their own. of course loneliness and despair is the reason for addiction. actually, even that isn't really enough to cause addiction to drugs. my oldest brother was on the road to becoming an alcoholic, when he finally realized that alcohol in him could kill the people around him. serious anger issues, no wonder, my mother left him when he was four, with no explanation. his father didn't care, so my second brother's father adopted him. he's gotten some love, but not enough to make up for all the betrayal. anyway, he turned his addiction to gaming instead. worked perfectly well. and when he finally got out of depression, decided to do something with his life, change himself to the better, it didn't take any rehab to break his gaming habit. he just stopped wasting time on games. and another brother is suffering from bad enough ptsd that his therapist had a hard time believing he's not a heavy drug addict. that's some serious stubbornness, and unwillingness to let go of any more control of one's own life. he sticks with games, often plays until he falls asleep, because lying awake in bed is too scary. but never even considered drugs, not alcohol either.
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