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Post by Sarah on Dec 10, 2014 9:12:51 GMT 8
You remembered :-) So, in your honor, I declared today the official Hawaiian Shirt Day. Why must you hurt me so?
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Post by JDLR on Dec 10, 2014 12:51:35 GMT 8
You remembered :-) So, in your honor, I declared today the official Hawaiian Shirt Day. Why must you hurt me so? You gotta be Cruel to be kind, in the right measure Cruel to be kind, it's a very good sign Cruel to be kind, means that I love you Baby, you gotta be cruel to be kind ;^)
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Post by Ayla on Dec 10, 2014 17:26:24 GMT 8
Quick question - I feel non binary captures the space that I inhabit and I also sense a need and a desire for fluidity but when I am asked as to which pronoun I prefer, it is either they or she and definitely not he... which suggests to me that I lean towards the feminine aspect of a non binary identity. Does this sound like I am over thinking this or do you think that I am missing something?
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Post by Kelly on Dec 10, 2014 17:34:19 GMT 8
Seems reasonable to me, Aisla..
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Post by Leena on Dec 20, 2014 15:02:26 GMT 8
I don't mind "guy", or "dude", or whatever, but "Man" makes me cringe a little sometimes.? The word "Man" does that more that "guy" or "dude" when applied to me. They don't entirely mean the same thing, on some level, even though they are interchangeable in many situations. I'm genderfluid MAAB. I'm usually a girl, and sometimes a guy. On a rare occasion, I see myself as a mix of the two. It's very rare, to the point I sometimes use the bigender label instead, and sometimes bigender/genderfluid. I also often flip back and forth between guy and girl within a matter of seconds, and sometimes stick in guy mode for a number of weeks, and think I'm somehow magically cured, but just when I start thinking like that I seem to flip hard back to girl mode.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2014 2:40:58 GMT 8
I had posted this in the wrong thread and deleted it and am reposting it here in a more appropriate spot. I Googled my name and found this on the Internet, something I had written back in 2010 before we actually cemented the term Non Binary into our vocabulary as an official designation describing a different self identity in a binary world. Since then my mind, body and attitudes have changed and continue to change as transition isn't a singularly static event. I Am An Androgyne My World This is my commentary about Androgeny, which is best defined as those who have the appearance of being ambiguously different from their intended birth gender. Girlish looking effeminate boys or boyish looking masculine girls. Just as in any biologic study there are categories called phylum and sub-phylum, so in this there are three general categories of androgenous people. First there are those born with a genetic predisposition, they may suffer from Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome AIS, a condition whereby the fetus with XY chromosomes is unresponsive to testosterone, the fetus then defaults to it's female beginnings and is born with ambiguous genitalia and is often raised as a female. Several famous female models were AIS kids born with male XY chromosomes but developed into tall, slender, willowy, attractive looking women. There are other anomalies and chromosomal disorders XXY syndrome and Mosaicism that precipitate androgeny in this first category. The second category is made up of transsexuals and cross-dressers who suffer from Gender Identity Disorder GID often referred to as gender dysphoria which is a perplexing mental and emotional disorder whereby an individual believes that he is really a she living in the wrong body or visa versa. This condition often culminates in sexual reassignment surgery. The third category entails those whose endocrine system is environmentally compromised and the cure itself leads to unwanted physical changes to include secondary sexual characteristics. My name is Shantel Bassett, I have come to this place in my own life as a third category androgene which has in effect, opened my eyes to the plight and anguish that so many others suffer. There is little civility extended toward these people, who endure unwanted sexual overtures by perverts looking for a kinky experience, there are the disdainful looks, stares even leers and nasty comments. I am a male, walk, talk and think like a male however my general physiology says otherwise and often rats me out in spite of my male attire. My heart goes out to all the others who suffer the indignities brought on by their condition and the willful ignorance of others. www.experienceproject.com/stories/Am-An-Androgyne/1297652Much of that former person and thinking has morphed considerably since I wrote that, I no longer admit to male or female as non binary is so much more applicable.
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Post by Ayla on Dec 28, 2014 4:45:24 GMT 8
Shan
A good post and the reactions were also positive. It is interesting how our understanding of ourselves and of others continues to change and to evolve. Non binary also feels better for me as a member of the second category. I am now less interested in labels in so much as accepting, understanding and expressing myself. If forced to choose a label then I am m2me and proud of it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2014 22:59:07 GMT 8
I don't mind "guy", or "dude", or whatever, but "Man" makes me cringe a little sometimes.? The word "Man" does that more that "guy" or "dude" when applied to me. They don't entirely mean the same thing, on some level, even though they are interchangeable in many situations. I'm genderfluid MAAB. I'm usually a girl, and sometimes a guy. On a rare occasion, I see myself as a mix of the two. It's very rare, to the point I sometimes use the bigender label instead, and sometimes bigender/genderfluid. I also often flip back and forth between guy and girl within a matter of seconds, and sometimes stick in guy mode for a number of weeks, and think I'm somehow magically cured, but just when I start thinking like that I seem to flip hard back to girl mode. The cis ladies often being so much more innately sensitive aren't just kidding when they mention to a guy that they can see "his" feminine side showing. The first time I heard that I was in total denial and kept myself busy suppressing it.
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Post by Whisper on Dec 30, 2014 22:01:06 GMT 8
Ayla I saw somewhere a great article mentioning how great it is when someone changes their label. It means that a greater understanding has been reached, rather than betrayal or confusion.
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Post by Laura J on Dec 30, 2014 22:16:33 GMT 8
The word "Man" does that more that "guy" or "dude" when applied to me. They don't entirely mean the same thing, on some level, even though they are interchangeable in many situations. I'm genderfluid MAAB. I'm usually a girl, and sometimes a guy. On a rare occasion, I see myself as a mix of the two. It's very rare, to the point I sometimes use the bigender label instead, and sometimes bigender/genderfluid. I also often flip back and forth between guy and girl within a matter of seconds, and sometimes stick in guy mode for a number of weeks, and think I'm somehow magically cured, but just when I start thinking like that I seem to flip hard back to girl mode. The cis ladies often being so much more innately sensitive aren't just kidding when they mention to a guy that they can see "his" feminine side showing. The first time I heard that I was in total denial and kept myself busy suppressing it. That's the same with me too Shan. I've had several call me a g/f, you know, like one of the girls. But I never suppressed it, it made me smile all day.. I didn't even know why at the time, I hadn't explored the trans reason yet, I just liked it for some odd reason I thought.
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Post by Ayla on Dec 31, 2014 7:58:45 GMT 8
Ayla I saw somewhere a great article mentioning how great it is when someone changes their label. It means that a greater understanding has been reached, rather than betrayal or confusion. Whisper I agree. Changing labels to reflect a better understanding of oneself is a refinement and a good thing, if you think that you need a label safe travels aisla
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Post by Leena on Dec 31, 2014 14:01:26 GMT 8
That's the same with me too Shan. I've had several call me a g/f, you know, like one of the girls. But I never suppressed it, it made me smile all day.. I didn't even know why at the time, I hadn't explored the trans reason yet, I just liked it for some odd reason I thought. I got called one of the girls a few times in my distant past and it made me smile then too…I later went the wrong direction and did suppress it, in some ways, it kills me how close I was to unraveling all of this so long ago...
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Post by Laura J on Dec 31, 2014 14:28:46 GMT 8
That's the same with me too Shan. I've had several call me a g/f, you know, like one of the girls. But I never suppressed it, it made me smile all day.. I didn't even know why at the time, I hadn't explored the trans reason yet, I just liked it for some odd reason I thought. I got called one of the girls a few times in my distant past and it made me smile then too…I later went the wrong direction and did suppress it, in some ways, it kills me how close I was to unraveling all of this so long ago... I can relate.. I always suppressed it until 6-7 months ago, I didn't know about any of this stuff.? So I may still be the baby here.. I still surpress it most of the time to a degree, but I've become very open and authentic online on fb, blogs and of course here where I keep no secrets.. I think that's why I value any time and opportunity to hang out with trans friends, its a release to be able to be truely authentic and not feel self conscious.
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Post by Ayla on Dec 31, 2014 14:42:46 GMT 8
I got called one of the girls a few times in my distant past and it made me smile then too…I later went the wrong direction and did suppress it, in some ways, it kills me how close I was to unraveling all of this so long ago... I can relate.. I always suppressed it until 6-7 months ago, I didn't know about any of this stuff.? So I may still be the baby here.. I still surpress it most of the time to a degree, but I've become very open and authentic online on fb, blogs and of course here where I keep no secrets.. I think that's why I value any time and opportunity to hang out with trans friends, its a release to be able to be truely authentic and not feel self conscious. Mark A lot of similarity here on NYE. Here I am most authentic, but in truth I am now increasingly authentic across all of my key relationships, and it feels liberating, enriching, empowering and exciting. Hanging out here, or hanging out with other trans folk online or in person, provides me with the opportunity to share, discuss and to learn from fellow travellers. Perhaps our narratives always differ in the detail but our challenge is similar - authenticity and a self authored life. Safe travels Aisla
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Post by Laura J on Dec 31, 2014 15:19:14 GMT 8
I can relate.. I always suppressed it until 6-7 months ago, I didn't know about any of this stuff.? So I may still be the baby here.. I still surpress it most of the time to a degree, but I've become very open and authentic online on fb, blogs and of course here where I keep no secrets.. I think that's why I value any time and opportunity to hang out with trans friends, its a release to be able to be truely authentic and not feel self conscious. Mark A lot of similarity here on NYE. Here I am most authentic, but in truth I am now increasingly authentic across all of my key relationships, and it feels liberating, enriching, empowering and exciting. Hanging out here, or hanging out with other trans folk online or in person, provides me with the opportunity to share, discuss and to learn from fellow travellers. Perhaps our narratives always differ in the detail but our challenge is similar - authenticity and a self authored life. Safe travels Aisla Yes, so very true Aisla..!
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