The estrogen cypionate overdose

[Trinity]

Chronicaling the current od

2 years no dose variance 2.5 cc per week

Quest not processing lab requests with no explanation of why

Normal 275 to 350 serum range w one spike 2 yrs ago to 450

Current serum 950

Doc withholding estrogen and finesteride

Symtoms of od feeling stoned, no short term memory, time distortion, severe depression that could be social, dysphoria.

Risk is blood clots, psychological and physical withdrawl.

Quest labs is negligent.

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Doc appt mon.
Takes 4 days to get bloodwork back.

I wanna know why this happened to me.

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I had to leave work.

I'm watching it with the emotions.  I get depressed anyway.  Listening to special and beutiful music, from a time when I was happier.

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Leaning on you.

Letting sh'e take over tonight.

I dont feel like trying to control my gender.

And i dont want the wig.  I just want to be me.

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The OD remains strong. Gender is in a really cool nonbinary place that i like a lot.

Short term mem feels slightly better, colors look a bit amped, and i still feel pretty high.

Emotions remain ok. I expect pms orcpost patrum type symptoms as levels drop.

Loving blessings

Trin.

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I need to go quiet i think while i get through this.

Doc tomorrow. I want to know why this happened. Willing to listen to him, this od scares me.

Id like to back down to the 200's instead of the 300's.

And i am finally willing to discuss the patch. But like any addict itll be hard to bring that up. I probably cant but part of me knows i need to.

The addict in me is very strong and with the od its twice as dangerous on that level. I dont know if i can let go.

So if you say something about that and i get mad, its the addict, not me. I will try not to get mad, but there is no sanity when i am over that particular edge.

Im wurprised i can even say this much.

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Can anyone tell me please how big the patch is, and where you use it, and how safe it is?

I think I finally understand that its time to make a change. To be spike 600 points with no apparent root cause is one hell of a wake up call.

[EchelonHunt]

I used to be on pills. At one point I took up to 6mg/d of Progynova. As I was DIYing, it was working out to be more expensive than the patches I could get. Plus I had a tendency to forget when to take them. Mood-wise, I felt crap on the pills. I could feel my emotions yo-yoing throughout the day. The patches have left me feeling much calmer and stable. I have been using them for over a year and a half.

In the end I switched to the slightly cheaper patches. I gradually increased my dose until my current dose of 200mcg. I was using Evorel patches, but I hated how the edges of them cut into my skin and having to wear two 100mcg patches was a challenge too, as they are huge. Since going legit and coming out to the medical profession, I am now switched over to Estradot (aka Vivelle Dot). The Estradot are tiny in comparison to the Evorel. About a 1/3 only the size, measuring approximately 3/4in by 1 inch for the 100mcg patch. The Estradot don't cut into me like the Evorel did. They aren't as stuck on as the Evorel, but they still manage to do a very good job of staying in place. I stick mine on my tummy, just above the pubic hairline, since putting any patches of whatever brand on my butt cheeks has meant break outs of rashes for me.

I recently had a blood test, and measured 621 pmol/L with 200mcg. I have been on HRT for over two years. My current measurements are 34C/D, waist 28" and hips 38.5". So yeah, I think patches are working out fine for me

Quote is one transwomen's experience with patches. She mentions two types of estrogen patches.

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Thank you.

Trying to do job work. Tough with your short term memory not working right. Tough to even cook.

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I'm coming to a little bit. Fixing mistakes I made spiked on Friday.
And mistakes I made today.

But I got everything. I'm working from home quietly under the radar.

Its coming and going, in and out. Hits and lets go, but coming down a little now.

Left a nice music for people in music of the moment.

Kinda embarrassed. Not my fault though.

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Waiting at the doc

Still feeling high.  And i'm going...what the heck happened here and how did i shift so far girl?  Feeling conflict within.

Its so funny how fast i can gendershift visually.  5 mins and done.  With make up, without it...so easy.

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So i mentioned the patch, they dont want to go that route. I told him i wont make decisions because I am an addict.

He was in favor of oral but that wont work with me so thats gone.

Docs decision is to go to estradial valerate instead of cypionate (that may be better cypionate can act like a narcotic) and go biweekly instead of weekly.

Fine.

No explanation though seems to be available for how i od'd. And I think they fired Quest labs.

We'll see how it goes. Next shot in two weeks using e valerate.

He didnt like that I'm high.

He does like the nonbinary look though. And so do I. The wigs pretty but its not as me as my own hair.

Will let you know when i come down from this stuff.

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[EchelonHunt]

Is there a reason why he was against patches?

With the research I did the other day, it seemed like a perfect alternative; stable, consistent E levels and safer method for older transpeople.

Sucks you got no answers on the OD.

With E Cyp, you were 2.5ml per week. What will the dose be for E Val every two weeks?

(I know little to nothing about this so just am curious.)

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I have no idea. He said it would be the minimum to start off.

Im cool with that.

3 years in im fine with getting these levels down.

He shot the patch idea right down. There is only one trans doc in nyc i can use with my insurance.

But i can work with him fine.

Still high as a kite. I had nonmeasurable t levels, they are dropping the t blocker dose. First time in 3 years they ran those bloods.

Quest labs sucks. And is NEGLIGENT.

Not negligie. Idiots. Both my male and nonbinary female names are on the blood draw vials i saw them.

Hopefully ill have blood results tommorrow from thursday.

Thanks for asking about it

I'm not myself right now.  Perhaps I need a snickers bar.

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This is a very unpleasant experience...

Have been talking off line with one who is very dear to me and who I trust.

I may stay in this thread for a while. I don't trust my reasoning, I don't trust where my addictive nature will take me on this, and I don't like how I feel.

Still feeling high this morning. But I am beginning to feel and hear from my core, from deep inside, and I really don't like what I am hearing.

Gotta run. Working under pressure here, trying to keep it all together while I come back to reality.

Influence of hormones on gender perception. Now there's a good thread to start, but I think someone else should start it. I'm not in good shape to start anything right now.

Nonbinary on full TS transition levels. And now I wonder if I can back it down, or will I cave in and go back to the feeling of being high on estrogen, as I have been now for nearly 3 years daily.