Is Gender a Social Construct? A Gender-Free Society?

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Oct 27, 2015 23:59:43 GMT 8 @foxglove said:

Oct 27, 2015 8:08:57 GMT 8 @jamie said:

What the hell is with the Neanderthals lately? This is the second post I saw it in. LOL I have seen some people that looked like a Neanderthal with the short neck, stout and with a prominent brow.

Personally I believe that Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon interbred. I can't prove it and don't give a shit to try prove it even.

Actually, Jamie, my understanding is that it is now well established that all non-Africans have some Neanderthal DNA in them.

www.sci-news.com/othersciences/anthropology/science-neanderthal-genes-modern-human-dna-01734.html

As to whether this makes a huge difference or not, I don't know. If two groups are genetically close enough to produce viable offspring, then there's no great difference in them anyway. Homo sapiens and Neanderthals were long regarded as either very closely related species, if not related sub-species--and I believe it's the latter view that prevails now.

There's no way, I believe, it will ever be proven that homo sapiens learned speech from Neanderthals. I think it's certain, however, that our penchant for sit-coms and reality TV is attributable to our Neanderthal heritage. It's also my understanding that Neanderthals learned the expression, "WTF!" from us.

Actually different families within a species can intermingle. Homosapiens can procreate with other homosapiens as long as the genes can line up form the two parents. I seriously doubt that a primate like a gorilla or chimpanzee and a human can reproduce. In a lab possibly but in nature the genes wouldn't or shouldn't line up. A gorilla cannot produce offspring from a chimpanzee and vice versa. But canines, felines, humans of all races and colors can reproduce offspring.

Personally I think they were close enough to be able to interbreed. Both were actually human so. Just sayin... Like my friend that looked like a Neanderthal minus some aspects.

I don't know I like sitcoms if they are funny enough but reality shows. That has to come from much farther back than Neanderthals.

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Oct 28, 2015 7:04:31 GMT 8 @jamie said:

Oct 27, 2015 8:56:17 GMT 8 Ativan Prescribed said:

I said it first, could have been taking as something I didn't mean, or it's what I meant and don't know what I meant.
I used to have Chrome Mags on a car I had...

So Ativan. You are the one to blame.

LOL. I was just messing with you because I do remember your post. But I am dead serious about seeing some people that I swear have a Neanderthal gene somewhere in the DNA. Shit I had a friend in school whose neck was about the same size as my upper thigh. He didn't have the lower brow or the sloping forehead but he was hairy as hell even in his teen years. He was short and stout and stronger than shit.

As for Chrome Mags. God I hope it was a muscle car instead of a rice burner.

67 Mustang, 69 Chevelle. Cragar s/s

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Oct 28, 2015 7:13:10 GMT 8 @jamie said:

Personally I think they were close enough to be able to interbreed. Both were actually human so. Just sayin... Like my friend that looked like a Neanderthal minus some aspects.

The fact that we have Neanderthal DNA in us is proof that there was interbreeding. Or as I put it, 20% Neanderthal DNA? That would be the transphobes.

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genographic.nationalgeographic.com/neanderthal/

most of us are neanderthals.


my best girl friends seem to have liked dogs more than cats on average.
lots of guys i know love cats. from all kinds of different cultures even.

cats are better for lazy people. dogs for the structured family types. i'll never own a dog because of allergy. though i wouldn't even of i weren't allergic to them, i really don't like having to take so much care of a creature. can't even make dinner for my daughter to the same time every day...

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I got one hell of a brain fart. Instead of a Gender-free society how about a Free gender society? One in which you can be whatever you feel in line with? Where a person can express their deepest psychological identity without ridicule or danger of violence or being dragged through the mud for standing up for who you really are? People talk about Utopia? Well that would be my Utopia. I could give a shit if people fart roses and crap rainbows and all is taken care of in the normal perception of Utopia. Mine is being able to be me freely without negativity or anything else. If I want to wear my finest sundress and rock a ZZ Top beard and walk down main street without all the idiotic stares but just feel normal. That is Utopia.

I still don't and can't believe that gender is a social construct. I believe the gender that we feel on our deepest levels are more instinctual. As for gender roles. I would make a hell of a better mother than a father. I am a nurturer by deep instinct. Where does this come from? Not society. Society dictates that I have a penis so I should be a man by all means. "The great protector, ( I am the biggest wuss in the world. I am scared shitless of storms and love when a pair of strong arms that I trust wrap around me and promise to keep me safe.), the great provider ( I used to hunt and cried whenever I killed something whether squirrel or deer and just couldn't handle killing anymore. Oh I will definitely cook the meat but will not clean it and even sometimes won't eat it.  Usually I will because I can cook pretty fuckin' good. ) At deer camp with my ex, yeah everyone knew and there were two of us there amongst the men. There were some gay BFs there too but they went hunting with the guys. Me and the other girl sat at camp and drank wine while the "boys" went hunting. No complaints even though she and I were usually flying high cooking supper.  We came up with some really interesting recipes though. OMFG. I am going to miss those times this year. :'(She and I are still friends though and she will bring me some fresh meat and we will cook it together and sit at my kitchen table and drink wine and gossip. Just like old times. Except who Sean will bring.  But oh well I will move on and he will too. Deer Camp was fun but my friend will share again with me and we will gossip over wine. BTW I would rather a fine restaurant, Imported swill and the finer clothes and perfumes.  Ahh. I cain't lie. I would rather deer camp with my love than a date with an over privileged asshole. I will miss it this year.