Christianity-in daily sancuary, living Christ, hows it going

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Mar 20, 2015 7:57:27 GMT 8 Shan said:

Mar 20, 2015 7:33:38 GMT 8 @jamie said:

Ok so another jaba t someone I really love as a brother or sister. I don't care but for Shan. Ano9ther little jjab from a bad girl. I do love you "granny" Shan.  But this is More or less Gnostic. But The Christ Consciousness is within us all. It isn't that hard to acesss. It is way above the conscious mind, the subconscious and the super conscious mind. The Christ Conscious to me and me alone( Shan my dear) is the whole meaning of hte holy Ghost or Holy Spirit. It is what Christ left us as a legacy.

OK so I am back I will give a different view or opinion. But Yeshua died. His body is no more than what our bodies will be. But the blueprints live on. The Knights Templar wasn't just something for nothing. OK so I am going to shut up unless you want to here more. Yeshua lives on but in the way of consciousness. Living Christ? Christ was cricified and died on the cross. Even historical documents can back up that he was in two places at once on opposite riverbanks to his followers. This is pretty big in the paranrmal investigatvie world. Because Christ had no body but it was totally in Spirit.

I will shut up now. becaus I don't want to fight or argue especially between two people I love and cherish as family but sometimes we have to have open minds to hear the true messages. Christ or Yeshua is not dead. But what we know of that Spirit is alive an well in us for those that lsiten. For those that have ears to hear. 

I said I would never come hear again. Sorry but something just made me want to write. But your ears to hear will only hear physical sounds, your mind can actually hear the lesson. Your eyes can see only phycail sights but your mind or your Psyche which is ancient Greek for Soul can see and hear all this.

So curse me all you want. I will still love you all. Hurt my feelings all you want. I will still love you all. I should have never come her again but I chanced it.

Pretty good comments though Jamie. Let me add this, Jesus referred to himself as the firstborn of the dead, a new creation. After His resurrection he showed up by the lake and He and the fishermen sat down by the fire and ate some food, He ate with them. At another time when the apostles were cowering in the locked upper room for fear of what the authorities would do to them, Jesus walked right in through the closed door and Thomas didn't believe He was for real and Jesus exposed the Roman spear wound in His side and had Thomas feel it, and Thomas dropped to his knees and said, "My Lord and My God!" So Jesus does come to us in spirit and He also has a physical body that was dead and came back to life in which death has no power over anymore. The scriptures say somewhere that at the resurrection we will be transformed to become just like Him. With all my wounds, aches and pains of getting older that sounds like a great plan to me.

That is where my Gnosticism kicks in hon. I do believe that Christ died for our sins. I believe it was something that was planned long before he was born to a physical woan. I believe the physical body of Christ did perish. I believe that his followers took it from the tomb. But wheter he was physically resurrected or his consciousness beat death. To me it is way more powerful that his consciousness bet death than his physical body. Physically he suffered enough humilation. If his followers took his body to not face more degradation from the Romans, I can't and will never blame them. If not then it was a miracle. I can't say which way that is a question of Faith. But I would never think less of Jesus or Yeshua regardless of whether the resurection is true or not. Christ had knowledge, an inner knowledge, Christ was a direct creation of God. Warning, Gnostism coming up: We are indirect creations from God. We are no less important than direct creations. But I believe we are indirect creations from the Seven Elohim. No less important than Christ because we are the sons and daughters of God all. And definately no more important that Christ and the main reason Christ was called the son of God and the son of man. Yeshua may have been a direct creation of God but no less important or loved than any creation direct or indirect of the Creator.

Nope I can't quote scripture. I have read the bible three times form beginning to end. I don't remember quotes. I don't think it so much about that. Well I can quote some but never will.

We are just like Christ. But we have to live like Christ from what is inward and let that mold what is outside. Too often in my belief a lot of people allow what is outside determine the inside. The inward should alway be projected outward. Some people's inside aren't that good. But that is our punishment from eating from the Tree of Knowledge. We kno the difference between good and evil and according to freewill we are the ones that decide which path to follow. Unfortunatel some follow the evil path. Devine Freewill is a Great gift. We choose. If we choose Evil then God will not break the Freewill Gift. I was pissed half the night last night because a Priest supposedly got away with murdering a woman in her prime. It is not up to me. his operson will be judged eventually. Hell he is a grandfather because he left the catholic church. He has children tha love himn and grandchildren that love him. I have no children and therefore never will have grandchildren. so I guess he has had a better life than me so far. I can deal with it. I pray that there is such a thing as Devine Justice. Not an eternity but a lesson learned maybe. Warning another Gnsotic belief.

the thing that really sux is that I would never take anyone's life excptt if it was kill or be killed. I have nothing else but hope and Faith. I will never be a mom or dad. this person left the church and had children and now grandchildren, niether of which I will ever have. I really question sometimes though Shan. maybe my next life since I do believe in reincarnation won't be so fucked up. Another Gnostic belief somewhat.

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Mar 20, 2015 8:27:36 GMT 8 Trinity said:

You are drawn into it Jamie.

Of course you are.

Why would we go after you? Drive you out? Nope.

Poor thing now your scared to come in here. Relax. We dont bite. Not hard anyway....

But please dont be offended if in Biblical discussions we stay in our core beliefs. You arent going to change that, so no worries.

So, Hi there

I know hon. You can bite if you want though.  Sometimes my butt oveloads my mind.

But yeah everyone has their core beliefs. I sould never ever try to change someone's beliefs. That is all we have to hang on to a lot of times. But my beliefs lie more in the mystisicm of Yeshua and mor Gnostic beliefs. So all Al I ask is that is my core. We all beliee in Christ and one God. I ercieve them a little different and more outside of human understanding.

No dear friend. I'm not scared to come in here. I'm just no more right or wrong than anyone else. I may be right or I may be wrong or I may be both. We all are. We will find out one day but I don't believe it will be a right or wrong thing, just someting extremely amazing beyond our beliefs.

[Laura J]

As this topic is "daily sanctuary" I'll attempt to take it back to that theme..

You all can take your debates to a more appropriate topic, orbeter yet, start one.?


This week has been strange, I was very apprehensive Monday, felt alone..
At midweek I was better, felt a peace that was familiar to me, that connection
to God through Christ that lives inside me, I felt a taste of home, which is
too hard to put into words.
Now as the week ends, I feel a new strength pushing me, and also restraining me.
I realized very vividly today that I have to take care of myself physically better
than I have been, I have to eat better for starters.. I know I can feel better if
I take care of myself better.. I've been praying hard that I want to look better,
so I can much easier present myself with more ease and flexibility.. I know I'm not
healthy, but I can be the best I can be with the energy I do have each day.

I never thought I'd desire it, but I do want to present more feminine, just as much as my
gender fluidity requires so I can feel aligned as best I can. Thats what all this is really about isn't it.? I'm realizing it is.!

God has blessed me so much so far in my journey. If I thought for one second that he wasn't, I wouldn't be here at all doing this. I can't express it strongly enough, how God so delights in our true natures, and us as his children proudly experiencing them to the fullest..

God does not look down on us for being trans, I know some of you question this. God loves
Us and delights in us as his creation and we should always love ourselves as well.!

You all are in my prayers, and will always be included in what happens to us here..
Goodnight and God bless..

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Mar 20, 2015 13:06:32 GMT 8 @jamie said:

Mar 20, 2015 8:27:36 GMT 8 Trinity said:

You are drawn into it Jamie.

Of course you are.

Why would we go after you? Drive you out? Nope.

Poor thing now your scared to come in here. Relax. We dont bite. Not hard anyway....

But please dont be offended if in Biblical discussions we stay in our core beliefs. You arent going to change that, so no worries.

So, Hi there

I know hon. You can bite if you want though.  Sometimes my butt oveloads my mind.

But yeah everyone has their core beliefs. I sould never ever try to change someone's beliefs. That is all we have to hang on to a lot of times. But my beliefs lie more in the mystisicm of Yeshua and mor Gnostic beliefs. So all Al I ask is that is my core. We all beliee in Christ and one God. I ercieve them a little different and more outside of human understanding.

No dear friend. I'm not scared to come in here. I'm just no more right or wrong than anyone else. I may be right or I may be wrong or I may be both. We all are. We will find out one day but I don't believe it will be a right or wrong thing, just someting extremely amazing beyond our beliefs.

To marks point we'll start a thread for open discussion including your perspective, so that the scripture based topics don't derail, and we can still support your needs too.

Sound good everyone?

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Oof.
Went to a movie with Fuzzy, saw Kingsmen.

F word everywhere, very disturbing church scene.

I felt poluted when I left the theater. Great special effects, wierd genre.

But quite offensive, disturbing in its lack of morality.

Should have watched insurgent instead. Fuzzy wanted to see this one.

Spiritually I am still very dry.

Too many resentments, too much war out there, too disillusioned. Need Jesus, obviously He is why I am still alive. That strength inside the core that only comes from Him and faith.

March 27, 1984 last drink. Not bad. And I am trying to focus less on me and more on others.

Hows your walks doing? Everyone ok?

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Would not have gone if I had known about it. Thought it was a fun spy movie and it was loaded with swearing.

[EchelonHunt]

That's the thing with movies. Movie trailers only give a small peek of the bigger picture. I once have seen a movie that I thought was light-hearted and fun, only to find out it is dark and deals with tragedy.

One could read reviews on movies but many reviews spoil the plot-line or plot twists of the movie. Its one of those things that are out of your control, no use dwelling on it, my dear friend.

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Next time I'll ask the forum. Jayce do we have a movie theater section in the written arts? We are putting them in the general area right now. I have clips scattered around.

Just a thought but only if others would use it or benefit from it.

:-)

[Malachite]

Trying to hang in there: anxiety is growing as the day where I have to tell my family approaches.

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May 9, 2015 11:36:48 GMT 8 Malachite said:

Trying to hang in there: anxiety is growing as the day where I have to tell my family approaches.

Gunna keep you in prayer.  You have been on my mind.

I am struggling too, but not with being out.  Bitterness is my problem, and late transition.

These trials do develop us, but its hard.   I still have not told my extended family or my mother.  They do not need to know, Mom will blame herself since I am DES  transbirthed, and she is too old and has anxiety problems, Dad knows and supports strongly, my other siblings I havet told, its irrelevant for them, why do it.

The transphobes?  Not telling them anything they'll codependent me to the max.

So talk to us Malachite, whats happening, can you open up more so we can chat?  It would really be great.

Who needs to know, who do you want to know, and who is stuck in misinterpreted scripture trying to stick their nose into that which is not their business?

I have a lot of respect for you hon.

Blessings my dear.

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May 9, 2015 11:36:48 GMT 8 Malachite said:

Trying to hang in there: anxiety is growing as the day where I have to tell my family approaches.

Hang in there Malachite. If you tell them and they freak out, you have family here. Always.

[Malachite]

May 9, 2015 18:47:14 GMT 8 Trinity said:

May 9, 2015 11:36:48 GMT 8 Malachite said:

Trying to hang in there: anxiety is growing as the day where I have to tell my family approaches.

Gunna keep you in prayer.  You have been on my mind.

I am struggling too, but not with being out.  Bitterness is my problem, and late transition.

These trials do develop us, but its hard.   I still have not told my extended family or my mother.  They do not need to know, Mom will blame herself since I am DES  transbirthed, and she is too old and has anxiety problems, Dad knows and supports strongly, my other siblings I havet told, its irrelevant for them, why do it.

The transphobes?  Not telling them anything they'll codependent me to the max.

So talk to us Malachite, whats happening, can you open up more so we can chat?  It would really be great.

Who needs to know, who do you want to know, and who is stuck in misinterpreted scripture trying to stick their nose into that which is not their business?

I have a lot of respect for you hon.

Blessings my dear.

Hi Trinity,

I don't want anyone to know, but sadly, my mom, dad, and two sisters, and my brother-in-law are the primary ones that need to know.  With the exception of my dad, the family are conservative black charasmatics, so you know this isn't going to go well chances are.  Before everyone else, my mother needs to know because I live with her.  She might kick me out of the house for attempting to be who I am, or if by some chance she will let me stay, she will make my life hell with guilt and condemnation, even though she is a drunkard herself.  I don't know where else to go.  I know I will get the typical "God doesn't make mistakes/ God made you a woman." type stuff.  I'm quite a fundamentalist myself, so the show down will be interesting in itself.....them condemning me to Hell because I chose to bring my body closer to who I know I am. and me essentially condeming them to Hell for teaching a work's salvation, something I am strongly against.  At the end of the day, I know hearts will be broken and tears will be shed, and I don''t know if I could deal with that emotionally.  I'm pretty much isolated in my county with no support I can physically see or touch, aside from my King James Bible and laptop.  Jeremiah 20 14-18 has come to be my favorite scriptures because of this....because I really wish that I died in the womb.

@jamie thanks.  I plan on telling my family here how the reaction went....  This has me really nervous.  I have to prepare for a storm.

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Holy ghost will work them over if they choose false doctrine legalism, if they really are wired in. Grafted into the vine.

Are you prepared to go it alone?

Also I see help available to you through all.anon. Or acoa.

Prep, draw on us first dear.

More later.

[Malachite]

May 12, 2015 5:03:25 GMT 8 Trinity said:

Holy ghost will work them over if they choose false doctrine legalism, if they really are wired in. Grafted into the vine.

Are you prepared to go it alone?

Also I see help available to you through all.anon. Or acoa.

Prep, draw on us first dear.

More later.

I'm trying to be mentally, and even financially ready to go through it alone, but idk.  I really do hope and pray that the Lord will open their hearts to my story.  Also, what is acoa?  I spend so much time unwillingly isolated that is has taken a toll on my mind.

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Adult children of alcoholics. Another important read is the book codependent no more. On forum, Cynthia is our codependency expert.

How old are you dear? You read early 20s.

Safety is first concern, mental and physical.

Kjv translates to conservative but the original languages have too many key nuances to ignore.

I have a pentacostal preacher evangelist that has no issue with me as trans. She is black, and more concerned with Jesus than trans. Can get you in contact.

My wife and kids want to take me to a Baptist church, I don't wanna go. I go suicidal when they preach the bigotry. I assume that their women are not allowed to speak, etc, legalistic foolishness missing Christ heart totally on us, a grave sin and error, missing His love for us.

And the foolishness of god don't make mistakes used as a club. No He doesn't. He made us trans on purpose, with the courage to change the world in His strength.