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Post by Ativan Prescribed on Feb 16, 2015 4:33:58 GMT 8
There are a lot of younger people who don't remember Jenner as an incredible athlete. That's almost completely lost in the media frenzy to label someone as trans. Who he was is as important as who he is. Until Jenner comes out, he's still Bruce Jenner. He had a great run with the show in the beginning, he was seen as one of the better behaved people there. I quit watching it altogether after it came out, like the first year or so. It became like another MTV house live in bitch show to me. Jenner stayed the course and was the sane one, most of the time compared to the rest. I did catch parts of some of the show at times. It didn't take long to get bored with self absorbed sisters and mother. It's cheap so called journalism that has now turned Jenner's life into a freak show as well. Speculation is not reality and reality shows aren't reality either.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 4:35:48 GMT 8
I think Jenner probably hates the amount of spotlight on their family, only sticking around because love keeps you grounded. It's difficult to have a private life when there are cameras there all the time. I think they will surprise us all at some point.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 4:40:43 GMT 8
Could be an attempt at starting yet another reality show, but with the Kardashian's as secondary players. There has been speculation for a long time, rumors of this and that, it does have that same sort of media attention that Kim's ass seems to get. We'll have to wait and see who the long line of potential love interest speculation is, as it becomes more important to media sources and those who follow that garbage. Perhaps a new clothing store? Line of clothes? Is she or isn't he? Tabloid darlings up there with 'Aliens Live in my Attic Crawl Space'... I don't know, I really only know that they are all well off from sensationalism that is perpetuated by gossip media and those who are drawn to gossiping. On my list of unimportant things, it's barely on the radar... Media whores, almost as idiotic as the fascination with British Royalty. Definitely this. I can see a reality show called "TRANSFORMATION" down the road. :rolleyes:OK so the thing is that if I had those kind of finances I would disappear to transition. I would have plastic surgery to become different looking and so on. Am I the only one that would want full privacy and anonymity? I just have one funny feeling that this is going to be yet another reality show. I mean it does look like he/she is transitioning just from the difference in the face. A lot of people are making a big deal of their split up and who the Mom is dating now and then. But the thing is if she is transitioning and I had the same situation, It would be totally private and anonymous. Definitely gotta' agree with Ativan on that. I think more people get just as addicted to the limelight and cameras than they do Narcotics.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 4:47:01 GMT 8
I'm curious how many cis people actually care about this. I've heard nonstop talk about it in trans circles, but I don't recall a single cis person ever mentioning it to me. But then, no one I know watches reality TV shows... or wouldn't admit to watching them, at the very least, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 5:09:07 GMT 8
I'm curious how many cis people actually care about this. I've heard nonstop talk about it in trans circles, but I don't recall a single cis person ever mentioning it to me. But then, no one I know watches reality TV shows... or wouldn't admit to watching them, at the very least, lol. Well Pikachu, it seems to be pasted all over the "Gossip Rags". Everytime I go grocery shopping it seems like that is a story. Does anyone care that is cis? Maybe not. Maybe so and maybe a little more than they should because they are interested. That's all I will say for the cis though. I mean trans is picking up momentum. Lavern Cox, Andrej I can never remember the last name. All the porn stars and a lot of other variables. BTW I really hate reality shows. :rolleyes:Everytime another one comes on or seems to come out I want to go to the restroom and just ... But I still see something coming down the line if Jenner don't go to jail for the accident. I don't know the laws in California but in Louisiana you can talk on the phone while driving but you can't text. If you drive a commercial vehicle you can't even have your phone in arm's length across the whole US. It will all come to California laws and whether it is involuntary manslaughter or in direct violation of talking on the phone while driving. Or just a plain ol' accident. I still see an "unreality show" coming down the line though.
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Post by Ayla on Feb 17, 2015 3:50:37 GMT 8
Interesting My experience is this topic being raised by coz ffolk who were unaware of my status. It's an opportunity for sharing a different perspective it has resulted in me sharing with them that I am trans[ This isn't what I had planned to do but in each case there waz a good discussion with folk interested and engaged. I suspect that with People magazine and reality tv shows etc that Bruce Jenner and the trans community will be widely discussed. The question is - will we seek to educate and engage or watch with trepidation from the sidelines?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2015 5:36:23 GMT 8
Interesting My experience is this topic being raised by coz ffolk who were unaware of my status. It's an opportunity for sharing a different perspective it has resulted in me sharing with them that I am trans[ This isn't what I had planned to do but in each case there waz a good discussion with folk interested and engaged. I suspect that with People magazine and reality tv shows etc that Bruce Jenner and the trans community will be widely discussed. The question is - will we seek to educate and engage or watch with trepidation from the sidelines? Safe travels Aisla Sadly we will probably watch from the sidelines. It is really hard to educate idiots. It is dangerous to engage ignorance. I really hope that if Jenner becomes a transitional reality show that people may actually understand why. Unfortunately for those of us that are older have a harder time than the ones that are younger. Everyone saw the video of the transguy and transgirl that fell in love. OMG that was so freakin' sweet and I really wish them the best. I was really hopeful with the story about the transwoman waitress. Both of these stories brought tears to my eyes. But I know way too many areas here in the US that their lives would be in danger. It sux that the world is so messed up and I really want to hope that it is changing.
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Post by Ayla on Feb 17, 2015 7:05:18 GMT 8
Jamie. Suspect you are right but unless it appears dangerous suspect I will feel compelled to speak up! Aisla
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Post by Ativan Prescribed on Feb 17, 2015 7:11:20 GMT 8
I suppose Bruce would work. What's in a name, anyways? I suppose that a girl named Bruce isn't much different than a boy named Sue.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2015 7:23:25 GMT 8
Jamie. Suspect you are right but unless it appears dangerous suspect I will feel compelled to speak up! Aisla Me too. Even if it is dangerous. What can they do to me? They can kill me but they probably won't eat me. Really though, what have I got to lose? If I am ever killed by sticking up for someone else then that is a noble cause to die for. Sacrifice is nothing new to me so... If it's something I believe in then Oh well. Another one bites the dust. I will speak up anyway. What can anyone else do that I haven't thought about doing to myself?
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Post by bhhfmm on Feb 19, 2015 4:41:16 GMT 8
The way things are looking, they might have to resort to doing a reality show about a celebrity transgender inmate....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 5:50:02 GMT 8
The way things are looking, they might have to resort to doing a reality show about a celebrity transgender inmate....
Well, despite all of the murders, celebrities, inmates and the Chelsea Manning thing, at least the issue is being discussed in the mainstream arena.
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Post by bhhfmm on Feb 19, 2015 6:06:56 GMT 8
The way things are looking, they might have to resort to doing a reality show about a celebrity transgender inmate....
Well, despite all of the murders, celebrities, inmates and the Chelsea Manning thing, at least the issue is being discussed in the mainstream arena.I do hate to see them go through all this just because of a lapse of perfection behind the wheel though.
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Post by Metamorph on Feb 20, 2015 4:00:59 GMT 8
Well, this just shows me how clueless I am about popular culture. I had no idea Bruce Jenner was associated with the Kardasians. For the longest time, I thought the Kardasians was some star trek spin off because there were bad guys in star trek that were kardasians or something like that. I still only have the vaguest sense of what the Kardasian show was really about and don't really understand why there was so much hoopla about her ass. Reality tv is what made me get rid of tv/cable/etc. When even the more educational channels turned to more reality tv type programming I was done.
As far as Bruce Jenner and their possible transition go, I hope it doesn't become a reality tv show. I think it's too likely to become a circus and do the trans world as much harm as good.
I don't think we can scold the writes for how the gendered Bruce yet. Not until Bruce speaks up about how they wish to be gendered. Hmm... well, now is that true? I guess the best way to handle it would be to use gender neutral pronouns?
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Post by Ativan Prescribed on Feb 20, 2015 4:33:56 GMT 8
Kims's ass could very well be from some other star system, maybe a rogue asteroid.
Star Trek XVII, 'Invasion of the Kardashians'.
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