What Are Your Beliefs?

[Patty]

I believe in God plain and simple, and that he has saved me many times when I should have died.There is still a mission for me left in my life to complete when that is done I will be called home. I have no fear of death for I am never alone. Patty

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Nov 28, 2014 0:46:48 GMT 8 EchelonHunt said:

I don't believe in religion at all but the spiritual aspect, I do? It's weird, I have a spiritual connection to Hindu dieties. The trimuti, Shiva, Vishnu and Brahma in particular but my connection to Shiva is the most palpable out of all three.

I am very interested in unlocking my third eye, to achieve that highest level of self-awareness and enlightenment. I wish to be closer to Shiva than ever before and I believe opening my third eye will help with that, to be on the similar plane as he is. It would be extremely fulfilling and just thinking about it gives me butterflies in my chest!

I have also had out-of-body experiences but I am unsure if it's just dissociation or something else. When I look back on my memories of childhood, I see them from bird's eye view, as if I was watching from above my physical body when it actually happened. It appears my memories are being modified to bird's eye view even though I experienced them from first person view, within my mind. It's confusing to say the least...!

I don't think any of that is weird in the least. Even though I'm not on the Hindu side and more along the lines of Buddhism, Gnosticism and parts of Christianity, but not religious by any means, our Spirituality is a purely personal thing. Personal to our lives, life experiences, perceptions and possibly (note how I say possibly) tied to previous life experiences if reincarnation is a dynamic of human Spirituality. Maybe many other variables that are so minute that we don't even realize.

The third eye, the Pineal Gland. For whatever reason this little gland seems to have some type of Spiritual significance.

Out of body experiences and astral projection and many other names that people have called it is about untethering the consciousness however many levels there may truly be, from the physical body. Is it real or not? It seems real when it happens. It happens when we are asleep naturally in the way of dreams. But when we are awake and it happens through meditation then it becomes seeming surreal because it's not supposed to happen. It's not a physical reality but that doesn't mean it is no less real than your living room. And who is to say that this physical reality is not the illusion but we are so convinced it is real because the human body and senses are tuned into the spectrums and resonance of the physical world. What if we change the resonance of our consciousness to a higher frequency? Does this also mean that we can change the resonance to lower frequencies? Could be the whole conception of Heaven and Hell. Heaven would be higher resonance and hell lower resonance of the consciousness. Yeah that does sound a little crazy especially since I don't believe in a heaven or hell in the traditional sense. 

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Nov 28, 2014 21:20:22 GMT 8 @jamie said:

Nov 28, 2014 0:46:48 GMT 8 EchelonHunt said:

I don't believe in religion at all but the spiritual aspect, I do? It's weird, I have a spiritual connection to Hindu dieties. The trimuti, Shiva, Vishnu and Brahma in particular but my connection to Shiva is the most palpable out of all three.

I am very interested in unlocking my third eye, to achieve that highest level of self-awareness and enlightenment. I wish to be closer to Shiva than ever before and I believe opening my third eye will help with that, to be on the similar plane as he is. It would be extremely fulfilling and just thinking about it gives me butterflies in my chest!

I have also had out-of-body experiences but I am unsure if it's just dissociation or something else. When I look back on my memories of childhood, I see them from bird's eye view, as if I was watching from above my physical body when it actually happened. It appears my memories are being modified to bird's eye view even though I experienced them from first person view, within my mind. It's confusing to say the least...!

I don't think any of that is weird in the least. Even though I'm not on the Hindu side and more along the lines of Buddhism, Gnosticism and parts of Christianity, but not religious by any means, our Spirituality is a purely personal thing. Personal to our lives, life experiences, perceptions and possibly (note how I say possibly) tied to previous life experiences if reincarnation is a dynamic of human Spirituality. Maybe many other variables that are so minute that we don't even realize.

The third eye, the Pineal Gland. For whatever reason this little gland seems to have some type of Spiritual significance.

Out of body experiences and astral projection and many other names that people have called it is about untethering the consciousness however many levels there may truly be, from the physical body. Is it real or not? It seems real when it happens. It happens when we are asleep naturally in the way of dreams. But when we are awake and it happens through meditation then it becomes seeming surreal because it's not supposed to happen. It's not a physical reality but that doesn't mean it is no less real than your living room. And who is to say that this physical reality is not the illusion but we are so convinced it is real because the human body and senses are tuned into the spectrums and resonance of the physical world. What if we change the resonance of our consciousness to a higher frequency? Does this also mean that we can change the resonance to lower frequencies? Could be the whole conception of Heaven and Hell. Heaven would be higher resonance and hell lower resonance of the consciousness. Yeah that does sound a little crazy especially since I don't believe in a heaven or hell in the traditional ssense. 

Folk may have a hard time with what comes next.

I was trained and have that gift, both out of body and third eye.

Once you can see the unseen and are spiritually open and aware, it can get rough. Scary or wonderful. Both out there, both real.

Be careful, it can be a curse or blessing. A curse near the dark spirits, a blessing in the higher planes.

Be careful.

Jesus has all of me. I need all he gives.

Blessings

Satinjoy

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I won't quote you on that because it was long. But it was interesting. And this will be kind of long too. You talk about paths, I have heard some pretty wise people talk about the different paths but they are all narrow no matter which way you choose. Say I want to go from Jacksonville Florida to LA. The most direct and easiest path would be I 10 the whole way. But I can also take the long way around too and still get to LA, Not maybe quite as fast and I will have seen some interesting stuff along the way but the end destination is still the same. It just depends on what I wanna' see on the way. Which path I want to take. But even though an Interstate is pretty wide too far to the left and too far to the right and I will get mired down in the much and grass. I want to say the Dahlia Llama (OK so the spelling ain't right but everyone knows who I mean) said that. I could be wrong though. Not about the roads and interstates that is my analogy but rather the different paths.

I'm kind of different because I am a believer in Evolution, but that doesn't mean that I don't have to believe in Creation either. I believe things are created to evolve. Either on it's own or a little nudge hear and there and that is my main reason for different teachers that come from time to time. To nudge us and challenge us to seek more Spiritual knowledge or enlightenment. I believe Christ was a great teacher, the First Buddha, Abraham, Moses and a lot of others. Just in the Bible alone the symbolism of the astronomical age we are in coincides with the symbolism of the stories.

Like I said in the other place I don't think we can even begin to comprehend the expansiveness of God. Who or what God is, a great mystery. Oh I think we have some kind of feelings or perceptions and it is a shame that people fight over something that is way to complicated to understand. I can't understand the mind of God, if I could I would probably go insane. Because in a physical world none of it makes sense so we have to perceive God by what is inside us and personal experiences. God Gods, Goddesses. Myths and legends. Remember when it does come to the Christian Bible there are Angels and these could have been the various Gods and Goddesses throughout time. The Elohim. Lilith, supposedly Adam's first wife. And when Adam and Eve got banned from Paradise one thing that one of these mysterious being says is, "They are one of us now. They know the difference between Good and Evil." Is this the Elohim or Gods or Godesses or Angels? But does it really matter though?

The Bible tells you exactly what God is. I can't remember the passage and can't quote word for word but I think it is Christ that said God is Love. To me that is pretty powerful because is eternal, unconditional and undying Love and entity of it's own? So if that is true why do we have such a hard time loving our fellow humans unconditionally and accepting them as another unique Spirit that was created with a Devine Love? And respect another one of God's Creations the way God Created them. Anything is possible. Unless beliefs are tied to words set in stone.

Personally I believe in Evolution in the material world with the body and how it will evolve to exist in and flourish in it's environment or fade a way to make room for other life to flourish. I also believe in Spiritual Evolution too. And we are coming on that 1800 to 2600 year mark and passing from the age of Pisces into the age of Aquarius. So it's about time for another teacher if history, in a Spiritual sense, repeats itself. We need a nudge. Eventually we will get it.

I can see all sides and have been on all sides of the fence at one time or another. I won't lie because I can still experience all sides sometimes simultaneously. From being nothing after, to being an intelligent Spirit after being untethered to the body after death to the consciousness goes on. To just about anything. Anything is possible. I believe the Bible says this too, "With God all things are possible." Another little hint maybe? But my beliefs can change in an instant according to my life experience. So far it has moved forward and more complicated but it can go backwards just as fast. Beliefs set in stone are unchanging so I try not to set my beliefs in stone because tomorrow something may happen that changes and if they are set in stone and unwavering I'm stuck.

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Seems like Pikachu doesn't care for my beliefs and how I put myself forth about it, this is why I don't care to get involved in these kinds of conversations. I'm sorry if I stepped on your toes Stephanie, I may come across a little heavy handed but I will in no way recant my beliefs or thoughts on the matter. I don't argue with people about beliefs, they argue with me about my beliefs though, I simply make a statement of what I believe.

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Long talks, long walks, long songs. I'm game. A rocker chick for sure but not profound. Maybe a little confounded though.

[Patty]

Nov 28, 2014 0:55:35 GMT 8 Shan said:

I'm not religious, I don't believe in or adhere to a religion. I do believe in God and in His Son Jesus Christ and I have a spiritual relationship with Him. I don't believe that there are true Atheists, it's always apparent that even they are aware of spiritual things, and I can assure you that if someone was pointing a gun at your face, that there would be a few short seconds as the slack was being taken up on the trigger that everyone would want to believe in a Higher Power and in a new life in another dimension, it's inherent! 

I see evidence of God in all of nature, one would have to be stone deaf and blind to miss it. On the other hand I will always respect other people's disbelief as I have been there once myself and it is a very personal decision and not something that anyone else has the right to trample on. 

  I have never met an atheist in a foxhole when the sh*t hits the fan.This is very true been there done that and heard men cry for god and their moms. This is a place I really don't want to go to again.We each have our right here to post how we feel and be respected by others for our feelings even if we don't agree . This is one principle this site was founded on and I totally agree with it. Patty

[Anato]

Note to self: make sure my tomb stone has my last words written on it: "Still an Atheist."

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Nov 29, 2014 12:31:09 GMT 8 Patty said:

Nov 28, 2014 0:55:35 GMT 8 Shan said:

I'm not religious, I don't believe in or adhere to a religion. I do believe in God and in His Son Jesus Christ and I have a spiritual relationship with Him. I don't believe that there are true Atheists, it's always apparent that even they are aware of spiritual things, and I can assure you that if someone was pointing a gun at your face, that there would be a few short seconds as the slack was being taken up on the trigger that everyone would want to believe in a Higher Power and in a new life in another dimension, it's inherent! 

I see evidence of God in all of nature, one would have to be stone deaf and blind to miss it. On the other hand I will always respect other people's disbelief as I have been there once myself and it is a very personal decision and not something that anyone else has the right to trample on. 

  I have never met an atheist in a foxhole when the sh*t hits the fan.This is very true been there done that and heard men cry for god and their moms. This is a place I really don't want to go to again.We each have our right here to post how we feel and be respected by others for our feelings even if we don't agree . This is one principle this site was founded on and I totally agree with it. Patty

Hey

Respect all

Invalidate none

Share from the heart

Pray for each other.

It's a personal experience. If one wants what the other has they will be drawn to it.

Easy dear ones, forces at play, overcome with compassion. Truth will reveal, let it show itself in the quiet times of the night, in each person's heart.

Blessings

Trinity

[Patty]

Nov 29, 2014 12:53:39 GMT 8 Anato said:

Note to self: make sure my tomb stone has my last words written on it: "Still an Atheist."

  AnonBEAR I would defend your right to do that with my life as many others here have also done, and never critisize you for your beliefs...     Patty

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Nov 29, 2014 12:53:39 GMT 8 Anato said:

Note to self: make sure my tomb stone has my last words written on it: "Still an Atheist."

LOL. I tell everyone I wanna' be buried naked like I came into the world and upside down so everyone can kiss my butt. As a matter of fact I want that on my stone too except using the "A" word. The still have a fit when I tell them the music I want played. No organs for me please. Highway to Hell, Hells Bells, Paranoid and anything that is hard, heavy hitting and I want everyone to drink or whatever else at the grave sight, turn it up to 11 and party for at least an hour. Just put a drink on my casket. Maybe I'll even be there. It will probably never happen because it sort of crude and extremely unusual, but last wishes should be honored. After Highway to Hell, Hell's Bells and Paranoid then everyone can make requests. Might as well go out like I lived, right? 8-)

[bhhfmm]

I consider myself to be agnostic. I have no idea and can only go by what is known as fact. For all I know, what put us here could be from somewhere else in our vast universe or shit just happened and the right chemicals and proteins just happened to cook just right and create life that eventually became us and all the critters that exist or have existed in our world.

I have no problems with someone believing in something that I don't. If it gives them comfort, hope and joy, then more power to them. Most of the people I know are Christian of some form or another, most don't preach, they leave it up to the pastor. Most that I have known have accepted me for me, regardless of obscure passages that might hint at something else. They may not all particularly get the whole trans thing or even "approve" of it, but they can still treat people with respect, kindness and love regardless of what gender they are. So you likely won't catch me saying anything really negative about religion online or irl.

[Charr]

Non-Theist.

[Whisper]

born into large 'christian'-cult* family, became agnostic many years, then believed in science and psychology, then zen buddhism, then christian deist.
i like jesus, buddha, and even mohammad, on his good days, yet feel that god really doesn't care or isn't powerful enough to intervene. sorta became pessimistic in the magical santa god, that others in my family believe in.
whisper

*i edited out the denomination name due to their aggressive covert methods to monitor former members and cause havok

[TessaJames]

I am a humanist and see no compelling reason to posit gods, deities, spirituality and the supernatural in our efforts to apply morality, love and understanding to our place in the universe.  We are literally star stuff, as Carl Sagan explained, and our very molecular structure is timeless and will be recycled.  New information and discoveries happen every day that can challenge our former assumptions about what we know.  Being free to consider the contributions of all people for the common good respects rather than divides us.   Humanism recognizes people within circles where tight lines are drawn segregating us and we, in turn, draw a bigger circle that includes us all as simply human.  

Diversity of beliefs adds to our strength and capacity to sustain and care for one another.