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Post by Pinou on Jul 30, 2020 6:07:45 GMT 8
Since I've started to figure out I'm non-binary, I don't know what to think of feminism anymore. I'm STRONGLY feminist, in the sense that I believe that nobody should have less privilege because of what sex they were born with, and it makes me MAD when I witness any act of sexism, like somebody belittling someone else just because they're a woman. I also always have been highly irritated when people (mostly men) refered to my assumed gender (is that an expression?) when talking to/about me. Now I'm not sure if it's because I hate that women-looking people always have to be "othered", or if it's because of the whole enby thing. The point is I'm not sure how to deal with my feminism now. I need to find a new way to see it, but I'm not quite sure how. If you have advices for me, or if you want to express how you see feminism, please tell me, I want to know! Ps: I already have mentionned that, but correct me if my english is off, my first language is french (which is terrible for gender neutrality, but that's another subject)
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Post by Trinity on Jul 30, 2020 9:07:10 GMT 8
I don't think about it much, I mean, I am with them, and I suppose I could be counted among them, but we have had so much bad experiences with the terfs, but that imo is not feminism its just hate directed at trans women.
But the sexism, and the way men are, actually, for me its not the positive feminism that focusses, but the negative male bs part that I see.
An interesting topic, because the real application is possible self esteem and respect for nonbinary or trans people, instead of us being dropped to the bottom of the social scale.
How I see feminism, vs how I see trans-feminism for my part, or nonbinarism as applied to our rights....
How I see it is that we need everything we have to beat back the tide of marginalization that is our inheritance in this genocidal bloodthirsty culture. They are slick with it here in the US, they pass laws and wash their hands of it, say its freedom, say its sin, say its bathrooms, they don't actually pull the triggers but they might as well, because they play a chess game to get us to suicide.
And the greatest act of defiance we have, is to live.
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Post by kalima on Jul 30, 2020 12:25:59 GMT 8
I am a feminist and spent much of my career helping women to move into leadership roles, even though I was AMAB and presenting male. It is too bad that activists often see other causes as competing rather than as mutually supportive and beneficial. I like how the Black Lives Matter movement has brought together activists from many realms to support people of color -- maybe the tide is turning and we will start seeing that justice for any population is justice for all of us. We are all connected.
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Post by Leena on Jul 30, 2020 21:32:59 GMT 8
I always thought I would have been a feminist and activist in general, had I been a cis woman, though it didn't seem something I could be as someone living as a guy in a conservative part of the country. Even in college, most people I knew were conservative, and my roommate was a big Rush Limbaugh fan. In case you don't know, Limbaugh has been calling feminists "feminazis" for a long time.
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Post by Pinou on Jul 31, 2020 1:26:10 GMT 8
OKay, I'll respond to all of you I didn't know that terfs existed, but of course they do. I don't believe that's true feminism. I think that true feminism is about fighting gender based inequalities, not persecuting trans women. Trinity and Kalima, you're right when you say that true equality will be obtained by allying with other causes (that's pretty much what I read between Trinity's lines). That's a good way of seeing all of this, and I never thought of it in that way. All causes have their particularities that when can't ignore, but the purpose of all of them is equality between everyone. I didn't know that you did this job, Kalima! It's awesome. I think that everyone can be feminist, no mater the gender. And Leena, I get you. Environment shapes us, and if you were surrounded by males and you were male presenting, it's normal that you were not confronted with mysoginy. I think that my new way of seeing feminism is that nobody should be persecuted because they are physically female. No mater who I am inside, I will still be stared at in the subway and at the beach, my butt will still be grabed when I'm in the wrong spot of a dense crowd, I will still be scared when I'm walking alone at night, etc. Those things are less frequent since I cut my hair, and they will be even less when I'll finally be able to buy men's clothes, but it shouldn't be that way. And that will only change something in public situations, I am not talking about relationships or the system in general.
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