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Post by Trinity on Oct 26, 2018 7:48:46 GMT 8
Just like being a eunich isnt either.
And there are similarities.
So for those guesting in, its just the same rules and the same truth.
Love one another. Live Christ. What you do to us you do to Him.
That is a serious responsibility, my dear Christians, if you are looking in. Because right now, they are persecuting us, and doing it in Christs name.
Do you have any idea how that would grieve Him, how angry He will be?
Don't drive us out of your churches.
Its just a different gender, nothing else.
Find the science of it and wake up. And don't think God didn't make us trans as a mistake or an illness.
It's not, though we need corrective surgery and hormones. Its not a mistake that we are trans, but it is a mistake to think we don't need medical help.
The religious right is legislating that there is no such thing as trans. They are perpetuating our suffering, and with this definition, can deny us life saving hormones.
Look at the fruit and ask yourself, is this what Jesus wants and loves?
Or are you following a doctrine that promotes pain and suffering, based on bigotry.
Open your eyes and see with His heart. Its just a different gender. You don't have to understand it, but don't make your will greater than God's. Help us instead of killing us. We are trans for a purpose.
Don't damn yourselves with hate. Learn the truth of it all.
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Post by Ativan Prescribed on Oct 26, 2018 10:36:15 GMT 8
Being trans isn't a sin, but at this point, it seems like the entire lot of republicans are the sinners, but then it's easy to say that of most politicians. But trump and mcconnell take it to a new level that evil in this country's politics has never reached before. An with the midterms coming and they are looking like the losers they are, they just keep on piling on the shitload of hurt and destroy that will rile up the nationalists they have for the loyal base of voters. What has trump done that is a good thing for the country and world? Is there a day that goes by where he doesn't crap all over someone because he thinks he can because he's the asshole in charge? Trans isn't a sin, if it was, then why has it been around forever and still is? The sins of the preachers who use trans or anyone to fill their coffers is the worst sin there is if you ask me. Trans isn't a sin, but those who say it is are sinning right there and most of them know it, they don't want trans because it scares them. And that's the entire platform for the sinner party in this midterms, they are banking on the fears their base has, they are scared of women and children trying to get away from the horrors of their country. This country is the sinners that made central america what it is, if you know the history, then you know that the CIA set it all up because they were scared of communism, you know that other sin they are scared of. If trans were causing trouble in peoples lives, then there might be a reason to not like them, but the lengths people go to... Who has trans hurt? How many?... It's the same for immigrants, and trump's great grandfather was an immigrant, he didn't fall far from that tree, he's the great grandson of an asshole who ran whore houses in Canada, he's worse than the other canadian, cruz, who doesn't like immigrants from central america when his blood is not that different than theirs, just a bunch of assholes who are deflecting the real truth about then as the sinners they are, and holy shit! there are far more of those assholes than there are trans.
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Post by Trinity on Oct 28, 2018 2:46:31 GMT 8
Sealing myself off and protecting myself from outside forces right now.
One thing I know, to be Christian and trans requires being at the top of your game, we are the most hated people on earth.
Must be a real threat to the devil if we are worthy of all that fuss.
Living pure, living Christ....and being sifted...
In total submission to Him, who told me He loved me when dysphia shattered my mind.
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Post by Becky on Oct 28, 2018 21:43:25 GMT 8
My church just helped to sponsor the Pride Fest in my town. Our Pastor had the idea to put up this easel, and let all the visitors write on it. These comments are just as helpful for me as I think they were for the participants. God's love is for EVERYONE, not just a select few.
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Post by Trinity on Dec 10, 2018 8:16:13 GMT 8
Since posting this, I have been going deeper with Christ, He is dealing with aspects of this with me.
Self deception is the big danger, it always was for us, its where regret comes from later on.
Its easy to fall into that, and I have been guilty of doing it.
Its perilous, to fall into it. Its perilous to be trans, spiritually, mentally, physically.
Going quiet again, seeking Christ, just following Him. My season of being so vocal may be coming to an end, and where the enemy of our souls has invaded my own life, its time to get him out.
Love to all here. Heading into the deepest part of the forest now, into the diamond heart, weeping for those I know who are the fallen.
The stakes are so high. With me, trans is very physical, and I wish to live a pure life for Jesus at all cost.
Love you.
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Post by Trinity on Dec 10, 2018 10:32:39 GMT 8
I feel like I am in the middle of a spiritual thunderstorm.
Bear with me. I need to get the gunk out. And theres definitely gunk to get out.
I dont think who i am is part of that. But i do know that pride, sex, insecurity, rage...these things attached to being trans for me, that is the big problem.
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Post by Ativan Prescribed on Dec 10, 2018 11:39:30 GMT 8
The problem might be the Charlton Hessman lookalike who seems to be popping up everywhere. Trans isn't a sin and if someone tells you it is, they are the ones sinning, as if they can tell you how to live and that they speak for god, they don't. Speaking for god is a way worse thing to do than just about anything, it is the holly roller types who take advantage of the ability to scare people with this made up hell thing. There isn't one, it's a late made up thing that isn't in the bible, just like the left behind stuff isn't in there as well, it's based on a bunch of books that the guy made his millions by scaring others. If there is one really big sin, then it's using the idea of sins to keep you in line the way they want you to be, and once on the defensive, you will likely stay there. God works in mysterious ways, another line that allows them to say and do what they want to keep you in line. It isn't mysterious at all, it is something that you have inside you that allows you to connect to others and not for personal gain, it is the sin of using god as a way for personal gain that is the wrong. If god wanted you to know something, he'd tell you and not through others who look down on you, like the preacher in a pulpit, can they be any higher? They probably use a PA system to put the fear in you when they exclaim something that you did wrong that isn't a sin and then make it out to be like one... If trans was a sin, then why are there so many of them? Same with all the so called sinners, it makes everyone a sinner and if we all are sinners, then what was the point of god anyways. God is the way we knowingly relate to others with a sense of compassion, empathy, it is the lack of those that can be a problem, but if it was a really bad one then god wouldn't let them not have that. If there is a sin that really matters, it's the rich taking from the poor by any means they can, stealing, cheating, politics, you name it, those are the real sinners and yet the persist. Trans is not a sin, trans in itself is not something that is harmful to others, it is others who are harmful to trans, so there might be the real sinner. People just need the sin idea to toe the line and for centuries it was the way to keep the killing to a low level, but it sure didn't stop all the wars and killing in the last century, hundred years ago was WWI, the war to end all wars they said. War mongers are sinners. they profit from others deaths, and there are on average 90 people a day in this country who die because of guns, NRA and Ted Nugent are the sinners here people. If anyone tells you trans is a sin, then just point out all the shit in their lives that are the real sins, that redneck low IQ burly asshole who calls you a sinner, tell him wanting to fuck the neighbors wife is a sin. It is easy to just think about how the entire trans is a sin thing came to be and by whom, and those people haven't got the guts to confront their own sins without having to call out the people who are not a sin by calling them a sin, look at it any way you want, but just trying to convince people that trans is a sin is not only wrong, it is covering up their sins, or so they want you to believe. Trans is no more a sin than a man or woman can be a sin, if you're going to get genders into the sin game, then let's take it further and just call cis a sin, and tell them to prove it isn't.
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Post by Ativan Prescribed on Dec 10, 2018 11:44:55 GMT 8
This is the part where all the trans drown and go to hell...
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Post by Trinity on Dec 11, 2018 6:34:23 GMT 8
I would say that the scriptures say that God knit us together in the womb.
Well, He knit me together androgyne. Anyone that wants to contest that should dig deep into the DiEthyl Stylbesterol drug and cover up by big pharma. As far as I am concerned, if I am to be forced to live a lie, or to reject part of my biology as evil or sin, I cry foul, its not biblical, its not compassionate, its not Christ. Its cruelty.
So, if someone has a problem with that, and wants to call it ugly, they have to take that up with Him. Tell Him that He made ugly.
Its biological. There are spiritual aspects that take advantage of it, and like everything else the devil gets his hands on, distorts it, warps it, ruins it. And we are easy targets.
Truth is everything.
So that's where the whole solution is. And Trans being used to cause bitterness, hunger, loneliness, lisciviousness, prostitution, hate, anger, rage, and all those other products of cruelty or of being barred from being the Children of God where we don't have to feel or do those things, well, that's just not right, is it.
Living a lie is not right. Self deception is not right. Being cut off from the God that can save you from dying in this world due to its cruelty, is not right.
Paul did not force the gentiles to be circumsized, to be bound under law. Why would we be forced to circumsize who we are, or for the intersex, our bodies, to conform to a tradition that has nothing to do with the love of God?
All of this I write in fear and humility, for I do not want to be wrong. So take it with a grain, you know in your hearts what is true, and what is deception. I suffer from many addictions, and self deception is a very difficult part of what I have to live with, and guard against.
There are parts of trans in my life that are off, and other parts, that are just who I am and how I was born. For me, I have to be very clear on what everything is, and is not.
So that's where I am at tonight, still seeking Him.
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Post by Ativan Prescribed on Dec 11, 2018 8:03:34 GMT 8
A person can be deceptive if it suits them to be, but they have to know how much they are, that's just the way it works.
Addiction is self deception, the one that says you need something, you need it so bad you lie to yourself, and that isn't deceiving others, it is deceiving yourself. It grows and grows until it seems to be an entity in itself, but it isn't, the very moment you turn and face it as it is, the power of that deception just loses all its air that it blew itself up with. But we all deceive ourselves at times, but if we know we are and it is a part of playing that game, then fine, go ahead and eat that extra bowl of ice cream... It's when the deception works as that and you have no sense of its reality that you get hooked into it, you become the deception as well. We see it in others and call them out on it if we want, if they listen the deception might reveal itself for what it is. It isn't even a fine line for it, one we outright believe in the lie we told ourselves, the other we laugh at because we can. While eating that extra bowl of ice cream and knowing there is no excuse for it, so might as well enjoy it because you can then.
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Post by Trinity on Dec 15, 2018 5:00:55 GMT 8
I find it very difficult to see through everything, including the motives to take my gender visibly out the door and put it on the street.
It is that element of this experience that I have under scrutiny right now, that and also some of the things I wear, I do have a definite tendency (like most puberty folk would) to wear Erin Brockovitch pushups and blouses.
At the moment, stripping my gender down to core again, things are not so clear as they were. Being comfortably nonbinary, the old 70's child in real fact in so many ways, with so many different expressions of that core truth, the fact of DES conversion and the wiring that drug causes, and the very real gender dysphoria that centers mostly around a body that the straight male part frankly finds attractive - and of course, that makes total sense in a DES conversion - it all just makes sense.
So I'm working through a bunch of this. What I will say is that much of the deception, the anger, the fear, the gunk, the influences of the "matrix", the influences of bigotry, the influences of inflamed social media, are being reduced or dismissed. And with that noise reduced or gone, I can hear the core and the witness of what is true much better.
I have always said the rules are the same whether male, female, transsexual or androgyne or other. And that is where I am at fault, as most human beings would be. I push it too far, and as a senior transitioned androgyne, I really should know better.
Of course, with all the stuff I have been through, its no wonder things would get a little scewed. The influencers are pretty powerful, and the history of abuse is pretty awful, so the process, and this new path deep into the forest, is going to take a long time to complete. And it will be oh so worth it to be rid of the bitterness and the untruth.
Its a really good start. They prayed for me to not be trans, to kick that spirit out. Well, a lot got kicked out, leaving me with myself, a lot of truth, and still quite nonbinary, but without the anger and resentment at he...they....me....sh'e.
When you grew up under abuse, to accept you are who they all accused you of being, who you tried all your life not to be, is not the easiest thing to do. As a child, you don't understand how to defend yourself, nor understand that the abuse is not true.
It is no different than extreme shaming of someone for their hair, their disability, or any other physical trait.
This shaming, and bullying, is endemic in our culture. It was once not ok, and has been brought back to be ok, but there is a pushback from those who are sick of it.
Now that I realize all this, and accept it, maybe I can get on with being who I was before I got so screwed up by so many people.
But the bitterness is gone. Its like, ok, that happened, now, lets move on, forgive, and see what we can do with this.
Looks like I just flew off the diamond tightrope, the wings are here.
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Post by Ativan Prescribed on Dec 15, 2018 12:14:47 GMT 8
Just read the title to this and trans isn't a sin, but republicans are, the more right you are the more of a sinner you are. The crapola from trump about rights is bs, the constitution guarantees them, we are all equal, and it's the same in the bible, we are all equal and should be forgiven for far different things than gender controversy. If there is sin, then trump should get going and make sure he isn't causing even more than he has, republicans in general need a good ol dose of ass whoop'n from the lord. Just the idea that you can make a claim that this person is a sin and that one isn't, when the claims come from the worst sinners of all, they bring death with their claims. The greatest people this country has ever had were the equal rights activists, who paid for their lives sometimes by being shot by those who sinned in their claims that some are not equal. we live in such an age of information and we could have access to it a lot better if it wasn't all snarled up by those same people, jesus rode a dinosaur kind of religious nots. Those are the right, the far right of our nation and they have a right to their opinions, but they don't have the right to cause harm to others, nobody gets that. The sinners in this country are those who back the NRA version of the 2nd amendment, to them it means they can just shoot it up if they want, but reality is, they can't have a Abrams tank in their driveway, there is a limit and the defense they use is that they have to protect themselve, but that protection is from people with guns, like Las Vegas mass murdering wouldn't have happened it there had been a good guy with a gun in the loonies hotel room, they need guns to protect themselves from others guns, and those other guns are killing people total an average of 120 per day in the country. How can they even declare others as a sin, when they support the killing of that many people per day, we don't come close to that in the military, it's safer to be in a foreign country we are at war with than it is here because of guns and the NRA says we need more good guys with guns and guns everywhere, if we arm our kids they will grow up to be good guys with guns, but there is no such thing, a good guy with a gun has it with the intent of using it if need be, killing, is a sin, the NRA promotes sinning and killing is a sin, where does it even say that trans is a sin? Do these mind warping cave dwellers get their info from the back of a cereal box? On the side panel of a quart of milk... they don't have those paper ones with the missing children taken by guess who, sinners, the information that trans is a sin begins with the TVangelicals , the evangelicals, fox news and the alt right, and all of them are sinners, take them down to their core and that is all that will be left, but trans who hurt no one, don't promote death as solution, they are sinners? I don't think so. To even try to explain that statement away is just hitting your head on the wall harder each time, it needs no explanation, it isn't true, it is that simple, prove that it is true and then we can prove that it isn't, but what proof do they have? Hearsay bullshit that they buy into out of ignorance and that isn't even an excuse, they have nothing, fuck'm. It's time to ignore those who just repeat the same stupid shit every time, the same stuff that is a lie and just isn't true, and besides, if it were, they sin so what would be the difference then? They got nothing on trans, trans is by nature and in the truth, better people in general than the in general people who make the sin claims, you're a sinner, they are sinners, everyone is a sinner but them. Send your dollars to me and your prayers to heaven sinners, they make a profit over their claims and trans do get killed by their reckless sinning, they kill, you don't have to pull the trigger, if you hand them a gun, if you say these people should die, then you are as guilty as the trigger person, and they are less likely because they did it for someone, not against someone, they did it because they thought they were supposed to, so all these holier than everyone else, are not only the sinners, they are the sin as well.
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Post by Trinity on Dec 15, 2018 12:58:41 GMT 8
Jesus said you will know them by their fruit.
When trans women are turned away by shelters, by the salvation army, when they justify stripping lifrsaving medical meeds, discrimination od jobs, home, when they male us unemployable to the point we prostitute ourselves, and shut heavens doors in our faces....
Ever see a pic of angels?
Some are androgyne.
Seriously, killing the eunichs like pilaye, legally by letting us starve, will not endear them to the One who died for every one of us.
Death weapons...what is thet. I have a shotgun...desth weapon. To protect my wife...if it was loaded.
Its no machine gun. Buts its a death machine.
Anyway, cruelty was soooo not what Jesus is about.
Its sad, not a choice, look at physical causes. Consequences.
Everyone answers for their lives. All have the right to be children of God.
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Post by Ativan Prescribed on Dec 18, 2018 11:07:51 GMT 8
angels don't have a gender, they are genderless, kinda like NB isn't binary. trans and especially nb can't be a sin just because some want to get money by saying crap about someone other than them, they are shameful. Any and all who make the claims that these people and those people are sin, that just puts them at the top of the list of who is actually a sin. It nulls their statements and all who are sinners in their eyes aren't, who casts the first stone when declaring others of sin when they are so full of it that it's weird they don't get hit by lightning or something. But a lot of those people do fall and they fall hard, and when they do, they suicide and that might be a sin, but then one of those preachers at a teens funeral went off about how he isn't going to heaven, like the hypocritical assholes that so many of them are, people at the funeral had to tell him to just stop, I mean how bad do you have to be in the head to do that? It's not uncommon from those types, holier than thou. Judgement day comes for those people just like it does for everyone and they will pay the price for calling others sinners when they are right out of the gate.
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