twice a virgin...

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One of the things that I have noticed and try to help with is those who transition and discover new attractions, New sexuality, New emotions, dating, the works.

This isn't a topic limited to ts either.  It's really something we all have encountered, whether once, or twice, or thrice.

Me I was actively Bi, then married out of the sex there.  But the Satinjoy component, she was not freed till recently.  Integrated now she can express and be ...boomed...in marriage in that Nonbinary sexual experience and eroticism that is my truth.

Wish I could be screwed instead of screwing myself though.

I digress.

There is so much to having a new body, the right hormones, or failing that being mentally freed to experience your feelings a across the gender diamond.  First dates, first French kiss...

How has it been darlings, how has it gone?

In a real sense, Satinjoy needed to learn she could express herself, open herself physically and emotionally to my mate, and let out her raw passion freely.

Emotionally a virgin, fearful, vulnerable, she has begun to learn to surrender and let go.

And for the ftm and nbs, I am sure we have shared experience... I could tell you about making a pass, and how to drive a woman out of her mind...

Thoughts, funny moments, advice, experience on second virginity.

Love you all.

Trinity

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I don't know because I lost both long ago.  Other than that the only advice I can give is just enjoy it and be in the moment and let yourself go.

[LivingTheDream]

Idk cuz I lost neither

[Edge]

I'm far from a virgin. I do, however, struggle with the fact that I'm a boyfriend this time around rather than a girlfriend. I don't know how boyfriends are supposed to act in a gay relationship. I'm not as worried about it anymore and just going with whatever, but I'm still getting used to be called a boyfriend.

[Taka]

i'm pretty sure that edge is supposed to act like edge in a gay relationship.

i've only been in one relationship, and it was a disaster because i tried to act like a girfriend. i have no idea how girls are supposed to act in semi straight relationships, neither do i know how guys are supposed to act. a lot of thinking made me conclude that it's probably best to act like yourself, and be clear about likes and dislikes.

there are so many types of men and women, that i doubt you can get any concensus on how to act in either sort if relationship. be you, and if that doesn't work, that's because the compatibility was too low, not because you did something wrong. unless you've been abusing your partner ofc.

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First kiss, first touch, first feelings...

Different in our new selves?

I never liked kissing guys. There is a physical need, yeah, but my emotional ones are not the same.

[Laura J]

I just want my female side to be acknowledged, that would be monumental.
Everything to that part of me is like a virgin, I have yet to feel what any of it is like. Yes there are secret fantasies, but none could ever be played out until I was first recognized, the female within me accepted and embraced..
But I do think about it. The female part of my brain does have deep yearnings. But all unfulfilled.

[Auroramarianna]

Well, I am a virgin in every way. No kissing, no touching, zip, nothing. I am 18 and I like guys but I don't think anyone was ever attracted to me. Sometimes I feel like I am ugly and omg who would even want to date me. But this is way negative. I havr to be more secure.

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Feb 28, 2015 9:54:30 GMT 8 Edge said:

I'm far from a virgin. I do, however, struggle with the fact that I'm a boyfriend this time around rather than a girlfriend. I don't know how boyfriends are supposed to act in a gay relationship. I'm not as worried about it anymore and just going with whatever, but I'm still getting used to be called a boyfriend.

Ughh. I really don't know how to tell you this but her it goes... Just be you. All relationships are different no matter if you are LGBT or cis even. Just roll with and be the real you. When you do fake who you are that is usually when relationships don't last. And I'm not talking about a trans or cis thing either but in general.

Really Edge? Now you got to just be messing with us. :rolleyes:Hell hon, you are more of a man than I have ever been even with trying to fake it. So get used to it. Hell you are a better man than I ever was trying to fake it even. Uh, that was a compliment so don't throw anything at me please.

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Mar 1, 2015 2:17:30 GMT 8 Auroramarianna said:

Well, I am a virgin in every way. No kissing, no touching, zip, nothing. I am 18 and I like guys but I don't think anyone was ever attracted to me. Sometimes I feel like I am ugly and omg who would even want to date me. But this is way negative. I havr to be more secure.

Yep you do. You aren't ugly and it really seems like there are a couple that would want to date you. But don't let them take advantage of you. Just keep doing what you are doing and moving forward for yourself.

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I always was conflicted when I was young, crossdressed, confused. Had I had the correct therapist I would have been identified as nonbinary, and treated for it. But I was not.

The loss of virginity as a male was with a moderate amount of wine, sneaking into a bedroom during a cast party with my quite gorgeous starlett, and she seduced me. I didnt even know what I was doing, did not know what climax was, I was 18, never had gotten off before. Our first time I did not, and did not know it. Our second, I knew. Fireworks. I was in heaven, male on female back then, a hidden secret in my ceiling tiles, the lingerie I had accumulated.

We played sex roles and lived in the bedroom, whole weekends passed filled with wine, khalua, ameretto and sex. I can still smell the smells of it all. She was rather active, a rape victim who was enjoying first sex I guess with a loving fiance, she was 23, I was 18. I was just out of high school, just out of the abuse, never having been on a date due to the intense social ostracism of being effeminate. Just into the theater, just into pot. Everything had changed. The memories are quite powerful.

But we were totally immersed in sex and each other. Booze and drugs destroyed both me and the relationship within a year, but, hey.

It just naturally happened, it started with backrubs, always has been about that, I do that...I have gentle hands. No dates, just cast parties and after show bars that eventually ignited in a big way. I still love her, I wont contact her, it would be disaster.

On the male side, it was not good. There was no date no kiss. There was a year of friendship and pursuit, as I was trained in the psychic skills by him. But he didnt get me first. The one who did, I was smoking grass with, then upgraded to amyl. I was horny, not crossdressed at all, but feeling very female, and with the amyl, a hand went to my knee, higher, a question asked if he could ...ball...me, and intercourse followed. It was all physical, no love, just sex and drugs. That is how that always was, no romance, no kissing, no love.

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Transitioned, the she part of me, myself, physically and emotionally, that component, she is learning it is safe to unleash herself in bed with my woman. As I feel safer, she is able to be more and more out. Her kisses, my kisses, are more laced with passion, my body gives itself, I let the full needs open. It is an opening, of the mouth, the legs, the heart, the body. Allowing myself to be taken, although in my case, I am the one taking, aggressively filling myself with her passion, my mate on top of me, recieving the full attention of my passion as I wrap my legs around her, driving her body between them, and my body arching in pleasure as the estacy of an estrogen driven orgasm, many of them, turns me inside out and drives myself into wildness. My lips in her ears, I go on, till the needs of me are met, released, and the day can begin, however my body and mind and gender wishes to live in it, unhampered, freed, and alive. MTF bodied no op, it is physically that way, the gender variants are largely in the personality, and in physical actions, like racing, or defending my family from potential threats that are not really there.

Blessings my dears. Could I kiss a guy? Physically I could open and unleash that passion again, yes. There could even be romantic love too. But in that sense, I remain virgin, and will as long as my wife shall live.

Love from the wild fairy.

Trinity

[Edge]

Mar 1, 2015 3:07:40 GMT 8 @jamie said:

Feb 28, 2015 9:54:30 GMT 8 Edge said:

I'm far from a virgin. I do, however, struggle with the fact that I'm a boyfriend this time around rather than a girlfriend. I don't know how boyfriends are supposed to act in a gay relationship. I'm not as worried about it anymore and just going with whatever, but I'm still getting used to being called a boyfriend.

Ughh. I really don't know how to tell you this but her it goes... Just be you. All relationships are different no matter if you are LGBT or cis even. Just roll with and be the real you. When you do fake who you are that is usually when relationships don't last. And I'm not talking about a trans or cis thing either but in general.

Really Edge? Now you got to just be messing with us. :rolleyes:Hell hon, you are more of a man than I have ever been even with trying to fake it. So get used to it. Hell you are a better man than I ever was trying to fake it even. Uh, that was a compliment so don't throw anything at me please.

Yes, yes, I know. As I said in the bolded part, I'm not as worried about it and am just going with whatever I feel like.
I just hear things about how same sex couples are different from opposite sex couples that don't say what those differences are and I don't know what they are, so it gives me pause. Again though, as I said in the bolded part, I'm not that worried about it.

Yes, really. I've never been a boyfriend before whereas being a girlfriend was a significant part of my life and my identity during that period of my life (I wasn't exactly mentally healthy). How long does it take to get used to? That's not to say I'm not pleased. I'm just not used to it.

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Mar 1, 2015 23:07:59 GMT 8 Edge said:

Mar 1, 2015 3:07:40 GMT 8 @jamie said:

Ughh. I really don't know how to tell you this but her it goes... Just be you. All relationships are different no matter if you are LGBT or cis even. Just roll with and be the real you. When you do fake who you are that is usually when relationships don't last. And I'm not talking about a trans or cis thing either but in general.

Really Edge? Now you got to just be messing with us. :rolleyes:Hell hon, you are more of a man than I have ever been even with trying to fake it. So get used to it. Hell you are a better man than I ever was trying to fake it even. Uh, that was a compliment so don't throw anything at me please.

Yes, yes, I know. As I said in the bolded part, I'm not as worried about it and am just going with whatever I feel like.
I just hear things about how same sex couples are different from opposite sex couples that don't say what those differences are and I don't know what they are, so it gives me pause. Again though, as I said in the bolded part, I'm not that worried about it.

Yes, really. I've never been a boyfriend before whereas being a girlfriend was a significant part of my life and my identity during that period of my life (I wasn't exactly mentally healthy). How long does it take to get used to? That's not to say I'm not pleased. I'm just not used to it.

Well I can think of one thing that is different with same sex couples and opposite sex couples.  Well and there are quite a few places that we can't marry, but quite a few we can. Well and the BS that goes with society tending to look down their noses at us if we aren't in certain places that are LGBT friendly. I'm sure there is more but not about loving one another though.

I have been in quite a few relationships and everyone of them have been different. But I can't tell too much a difference other than the way society is gonna' view you, but that is changing. The whole marriage deal but that is changing to. But other than that, if I want to dedicate my property and so on and my mate does to then all we have to do is find a lawyer and have a legal contract written up. That is what marriage is anyway aside from the ceremonious stuff. So you got me on that one too.