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Post by Edge on Feb 7, 2015 21:58:18 GMT 8
Is anyone else bothered when people say "biological male" or "biological female?" I mean, I know I was born with primary sex organs that are generally considered female, developed secondary sex characteristics typical of females, and that, due to my former reproductive abilities, most likely have XX chromosomes, but I still hate being told that I am a "biological female." Primarily because I hate anything that calls my body female since it makes my dysphoria skyrocket. Is this unreasonable of me? It also partially bothers me because it doesn't make sense. For one, we're still biological. We're not robots. For another, how much of our bodies needs to be typical of our gender(s) in order for us to be considered what we are? And finally, why the hell are organs I don't even need to live considered more important to what I am, biologically, than my BRAIN? (Sorry for yelling that last part. I'm a bit touchy lately.) I've spent far too long being used as an object because people cared only about my body and not my brain for me to be ok with this. Am I being unreasonable?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2015 22:45:59 GMT 8
I don't think so.
Sometimes we say born male or born female to try to I'd the we are starting at point a and fixing it to point b.
Language deficiency.
But when it's used to hurt us?
With you. People keep telling me I am male.
Then why do I have boobs, high estrogen, and freak out on testosterone?
Male my a...
But, yeah. And words don't work again.
We need New ones. Heart language.
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Post by Ativan Prescribed on Feb 7, 2015 22:53:30 GMT 8
Is anyone else bothered when people say "biological male" or "biological female?" I mean, I know I was born with primary sex organs that are generally considered female, developed secondary sex characteristics typical of females, and that, due to my former reproductive abilities, most likely have XX chromosomes, but I still hate being told that I am a "biological female." Primarily because I hate anything that calls my body female since it makes my dysphoria skyrocket. Is this unreasonable of me? It also partially bothers me because it doesn't make sense. For one, we're still biological. We're not robots. For another, how much of our bodies needs to be typical of our gender(s) in order for us to be considered what we are? And finally, why the hell are organs I don't even need to live considered more important to what I am, biologically, than my BRAIN? (Sorry for yelling that last part. I'm a bit touchy lately.) I've spent far too long being used as an object because people cared only about my body and not my brain for me to be ok with this.Am I being unreasonable? NO... ( being a bit touchy myself as well..)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 0:37:21 GMT 8
You are definitely not being unreasonable. I really dislike people who use biological sex as an argument about why you can't be your gender. It ignores the existence of intersex people, it makes biologically essentialist assumptions about people based on secondary sex characteristics and gender stereotypes.
It needs to stop.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 0:46:52 GMT 8
I think the article that Annabelle posted in "Get a load of this" is beginning to address a change that speaks to this that is occurring in the younger generation.
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Post by Taka on Feb 19, 2015 17:38:17 GMT 8
"biological" is a rather inaccurate description, isn't it? what's considered biological? isn't it the result of genes and environment interacting? whenever you chop off someone's arm, they'll become a biologically one-armed person. the cut off arm stops being a biological part of the person, even if it's still genetically implemented and some brain structure still expects it.
i'd say you're biologically exactly all the cells etc that make up your body. is that female after taking t? after top surgery? after srs? biological human bodies don't care much if a transplant organ is male or female, do they? maybe organs don't actually have a sex, just a function.
what you are genetically is a little bit different. genes can make things difficult, but they still don't determine all of a person's identity.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2015 0:01:42 GMT 8
It's always been a bit of a pet peeve of mine, too. Mostly just because I find the description nonsensical. As you said, your brain is the most vital part of your biology, and it is male, so how can you be biologically female? Your brain isn't, your hormone levels aren't... In my view, you're more biologically male than biologically female, regardless of what's between your legs. I think there are better ways to describe someone's physical birth sex, but I think a lot of people who use the 'biological' terms are just struggling with a way to describe it and don't mean any harm.
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Post by Ativan Prescribed on Feb 20, 2015 4:18:59 GMT 8
Now I have to wonder if they 'sex' transplant organs, a male heart only goes in a male needing one. Hmm,.. to google and find 60 billion conspiracies theories about organ transplants or just go with wikiwhatever and hope that the references are legit. What to do, what to do... I could call the Mayo clinic, but it would take all day to find the right extension of the right dept in the right building there... What would Frankenstein's monster have to say about this? *Need to google that perhaps.
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