The values of the transsexual- or any other form of trans

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what are your core values a far as being trans is concerned?

How in your face are you with it with others?

How did it form your value system or change it?


THoughts?

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It has had no effect on my values. I now know more about trans issues, but my values themselves remain the same. I am perhaps more in you face about how non existent gender roles are due to the learning that people actually believe in that crap, but I've always had very little tolerance for stupidity. I'm just encountering this particular kind more now.

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It changed everything.. It made me understand others needs, their pain, it made me value self sacrifice, it humbled me as it is so big and I am so small, it changed absolutely every single thing in my life and my perception of it, and what i need to do with my life, while I can, since i cannot predict what will happen. I live each day like it is my last.

[ThePhoenix]

Dec 6, 2014 11:03:59 GMT 8 Trinity said:

what are your core values a far as being trans is concerned?

How in your face are you with it with others?

How did it form your value system or change it?


THoughts?

My core values are about being real and seeking to give others the space to also be real.  When I thought about transitioning, I looked at a lot of stories of trans* people and how they did it.  Then I chucked them all and made my own.  It just seemed like if I did what most people did, I'd have arrived at a place of living my life very fake.

My "in your faceless" varies.  I've ended up being one of those strange people who passes better after transition than before it, so I can be and am very stealth in my day to day life.  I feel most happiest and most comfortable personally when I am able to do that.  

But I am also an activist.  So when I'm doing that work, I am very in your face about it.  For example, I was one of the leaders of the campaign against the repeal referendum that targeted Maryland's new gender identity discrimination law.  This summer, I was out campaigning with a group of people near the Republican Party booth.  The party had officially made the repeal one its priority issues.  So when they came out to ask me who I and the other folks were, I made sure to out myself because I wanted them to point at me and say I was the man who would then use the ladies room if this bill was not repealed.  Bathrooms, of course, were their main message.  And by pointing at me, I knew they'd make themselves look insane because I look nothing like a guy.  Sure enough, that's how it happened.  And it allowed me to say to people, especially ciswomen, things like "you're never going to believe what these folks are saying about me . . . I guess that's what I get for being tall." (I'm 5'9).  And indeed they did look like total idiots.  But I also had the police called on me a half dozen times in two days and came BER close to being assaulted by one of the Republican Party folks.  I would call that being pretty darn in your face.

i don't know that it really changed or formed my value system.  Except perhaps in that I used to be a pretty transphobic person myself.  I don't think I am anymore.  But I do still struggle with my own place in and relationship to the trans* community.

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Dec 6, 2014 11:03:59 GMT 8 Trinity said:

what are your core values a far as being trans is concerned?

How in your face are you with it with others?

How did it form your value system or change it?


THoughts?

Core values of being trans? *ponders* I'm not sure I have any values specific to being trans... I can't think of anything.

I'm not the type to be in anyone's face about anything in most cases, even when I feel they're being totally arrogant or moronic. I figure that most of the time there's no fixing stupid, at least not with reasoned argument, so I'd rather just save myself the time and headache of trying. Obviously this changes if there's need for me to be in someone's face, as in they're trying to prevent me from doing something or they're mistreating a friend.

The third question, though... I always find it odd when people ask, "How did [specific aspect of your life or personality] influence you/your values/your thought process. I never know how to answer that, because for one thing, I have no way of knowing what I'd be like if I hadn't experienced things the way I did. It could turn out that I'd have a radically different set of values if I hadn't been trans, or maybe it would have not changed my value system at all. Who can say? I wouldn't say being trans itself changed my value system, but I've definitely met a lot of influential people through this site and the last, which wouldn't have happened had I not been trans. So there's that. But again, this line of thinking runs back into the problem of not knowing what sorts of people I would have met and what experiences I would have had if I had went down a different path in life.

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Well, I personally don't agree with going stealth; not indefinitely. That can be a deal-breaker with some people, and it's better to get that out of the way to save yourself from any potential emotional stress. I also believe that true trans identity is not something you can invent. How we innately feel and identify stays within the "binary spectrum" — male, female, androgyne, agender, neutrois, genderfluid, et. al. — so identities that somehow defy that are no longer considered gender, in my opinion. Otherkin identities try to squeeze their way under the trans umbrella, but I see this as someone who identifies as a banana trying to squeeze their way into a vegan/vegetarian community. We can't be blindly inclusive if we intend to acquire any recognition and equality.