Clothing And Gender

[bubbleteachild]

Ok so I am wearing a dress on Friday for the first time in like a year (which is gonna be fun and dysphoria enducing all at once) and it got me thinking of how weird clothing is. Like how you dress doesn't determine anything about you (such as gender identity or personality) but it's also a way of expressing yourself and things such as your gender identity or personality. It's somehow both of those at once. And it's also weird because of how different people treat clothing. Some people view it as separate to themself and purely for aesthetic enjoyment, some view it as a way of expressing themselves, and others just throw stuff on that's comfortable. Idk, clothing is weird.

[Ativan Prescribed]

That's so funny, it's true, can be those at the same time.
I dress in nondescript stuff in public, very boring.

[Von]

Clothing is weird for me.
Every day I get "clothing paralysis", where I just stand dumbfounded in the closet, forever, figuring out what outfit is going to make me feel like crap the least. Sometimes I pick something, put it on, only to rush back upstairs to change again.

I see a lot of cute women's styles, and appreciate them. But when I try them on, I feel like I look disgusting in them, or they're not quite me. May also be a product of being self conscious about How i carry my weight, too...

I'm most comfortable in a t-shirt and jeans, or a button down and jeans. So fancy, I know. I'm not a fashion guru.

[Yuki]

Dec 9, 2017 3:04:17 GMT 8 Von said:

Clothing is weird for me.
Every day I get "clothing paralysis", where I just stand dumbfounded in the closet, forever, figuring out what outfit is going to make me feel like crap the least. Sometimes I pick something, put it on, only to rush back upstairs to change again.

I see a lot of cute women's styles, and appreciate them. But when I try them on, I feel like I look disgusting in them, or they're not quite me. May also be a product of being self conscious about How i carry my weight, too...

I'm most comfortable in a t-shirt and jeans, or a button down and jeans. So fancy, I know. I'm not a fashion guru.

I just throw on whatever. Usually something off of the floor. Hahaha.

But I can relate... I feel like I look disgusting in most things, too. I think that's from chest dysphoria, because I don't feel as bad when I bind. But binding is rough on my back/shoulders.

[Trinity]

I am very picky about clothes. I wear the full spectrum.

Clear nail polish, long nails.

Red toenails but in fl ots open toe sandals both guy and girl so no polish.
Heels, knee high booys, mens boots, you name it.

Suitcoatsslacks, silk nlouse or guy shirt

Fake gold bracelet, trams ring, engagement ring with wedding band.

Morphing haircut, female broews kept nicely plucked.

Makeup when out she, not overdone.

Light mascara he and they, festher earing in one ear.

Spegetti straps and skirts, scarf.

Satin robes in the house, high end lingerie.

God how I love being nonbinary trans.

[Leena]

I've always cared quite a bit about what I am wearing. I'm not one to just throw something on at all.

I do hate the feeling of having nothing I really want to wear for what I am planning to do, and I feel it often.

I also really care that I look good in what I'm wearing, I've bought quite a lot of clothes since I started experimenting with my gender expression I just don't look good in. I'd rather go out in guy mode than in girl mode stuff I don't look good in. I prefer mixing it up though anyway. I don't think I can do pure girl mode, and it doesn't bother me the way it used to. It's getting more and more clear I'm not a binary trans woman, despite thinking I was in the back of my mind for decades, and having that idea still creep back into my head quite a lot. I've always known I didn't want to be a man or dress like a typical one, and never really did unless forced to. I especially dislike men's dress clothes and business casual. I'm still figuring out a way to never wear dress like that again. I don't even look good in it, my shirt is always coming untucked, or if I wear a larger one to keep that from happening, then it's baggy in wierd places. Ughh. I do play around with color quite a lot if I have to, and that can be somewhat fun.

I do wear a T-shirt and jeans a lot too, I love that there are so many more cuts and styles to chose form if you don't limit yourself to just the men's department. I do like some of the cuts they have, especially when mixed with some clothes from the other side of the store. So many combinations few people aren't willing to try, or even thought of trying.

[loveliving]

It’s funny how clothes really affect my attitude. Since I have started wearing what I really want to wear and not what I think other people want to see me in my conference is booming. It is awesome to finally feel happy with what I have on. The only thing that I cannot stand putting on right now is my winter coat, because that is the only I haven’t been able to change. Hoping my wife will buy me one for Christmas 🎄

[Maxime]

For me clothing is really important. I read everywhere that clothes have nothing to do with gender - and I agree. That's how it should be. The truth is, we have strong ideas and feelings towards clothes. Some clothes feel more feminine and others more masculine, because of things we learned our whole life. We can't get rid easily of our ideas of "feminine" and "masculine". Also, others do percieve us as more feminine or masculine because of our clothing - maybe they even see us as female or male because of our clothes.
However, to me clothes really help me expressing how my gender is on that day. It's less about communicating my gender to others, and more about wearing clothing that fits my gender identity on that day.

[danishcouple]

clothing is wired for some, not only in the nb world, also in the binair world.

But for us clothing has no gender we buy wat we like, and don't look at the labels ( only for the sizes hi ) .
We wear so called womens and mans clothing seperated for example a dress, panty's and leather knee boots, but also a suit and shoes.
But we combine also male and female clothing look at what i weared yesterday: male boots female pants male sweater and female coat nail polish and aftershave

[Ativan Prescribed]

I was reading this article written by a NB today and they talked about going from one costume to the next by incorporating what they thought was acceptable Nb as a look.
I want to be really clear on this, regardless of what you are wearing, it is NB, simply because it is you who is wearing it.
There is no such a thing as a NB look or way to dress, whatever it is you want to wear.
Just because a lot of people choose to have a sort of presentation means nothing, mix and match, go opposite of birth sex, it doesn't matter, don't wear clothes at all and its the same thing.
Fashion likes to pretend that there is a look, but thats fashion trying to cash in on NB, and really, if you think about it, fashions change because all of it sucks and needs constant upgrading only to have that suck in no time because the so called fashion experts say this and that.
Personally what possible difference does it make, are we that shallow as to run to the nearest store to by the newest thing because someone is going to be making money off of us?
I laugh at most of it, I haven't changed my look in ten years or more and even then what has changed is not a fashion conscience sort of thing, it comes down to this fits and looks good enough on me and thats generally based on is it comfortable enough and does it wear well enough.
Being fashionable is the height of absurdity, and also shallowness, do you even bother to look at others as people or what it is they are wearing?
There is no such a thing as an NB look or dress code or fashion, its NB if you wear it, its not feminine or masculine, it might be to those who buy into the fashionable BS, but who cares what someone who lives by the BS rules thinks?
Dress as you like and not by what others say, it isn't like you judge them for their fashion sense is it? If you do judge others by their sense of what to wear, then you are too shallow to make a judgement call on others fashion choices.

[Ativan Prescribed]

Think about it this way, how many fashions would you never wear because they are ridiculous and out of style and ridiculous, more than they were even when they were fashionable?
What makes something fashionable? Just marketing and gullible people willing to spend money of 'designer' shit, gotta consider this above all else, designed for what?
I'm surprised more gullible people are not walking around wearing superhero clothes made by Marvel, maybe some are but hey, it's a choice, you want to look stupid go right ahead because the clothes don't make the super hero, it's the person.
Be smart and wear whatever it is you want, just don't buy into some idea that NB has a dress code, look, is a thing that you have to wear, it's a state of mind and if you don't mind, just wear clothes that you like and it's all good.

[Trinity]

Be who you are, right?

Matrix rules, create another construct and stick them in the box, no thanks.

But I didn't see the article and don't really want to, so who am I to judge.

I prefer flying the Matrix, not being controlled by it and its rules, though in some situations I do.

Even if I look 100% female, my voice certainly does not sound that way.