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Post by Trinity on Nov 20, 2016 10:23:27 GMT 8
Dont even dream of fucking with a performing artist or your name will be forever in folk songs as the scum of the earth.
And thats just warm ups.
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Post by Valerie on Nov 21, 2016 0:06:25 GMT 8
Saw this interesting post on tumblr, which the person makes a great point.
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Post by Jennifer (Tink) on Nov 21, 2016 0:18:25 GMT 8
^ This is exactly the point of why the conflict of interest part of his presidency is going to be so bad.
Why is it so difficult for so many people not to understand this part of the danger? He ran on a platform of change for the US, make the unheard people heard. Support the hard working middle class. Nothing about what he has done over the past month makes me believe that he has ANY intention of keeping his promises in a way that will help us. He may push to implement the ideas he has been campaigning on, but I believe those changes will only be made if they only positively affect his pockets.
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Post by Ativan Prescribed on Nov 21, 2016 0:32:31 GMT 8
OMG, hadn't even thought about the songs people will write about the trump thing. Trump went on the attack again about the theater, and SNL. Jerk has to understand that he's not well liked and demanding that people respect him is ridiculous, respect is earned and he hasn't earned any. He is the least liked, the most hated, the most losing the popular vote president in history, there is no respect from the majority of people. I hope song writers everywhere start writing songs about the orange puff. They should immortalize just how badly he is driving the country into hatred. It makes me sick that he thinks demanding respect is going to get him any, if there even was any respect there, it's certainly gone now.
King trump is going to try and take away your first amendment rights, just watch. Even the second amendment people should be scared and pissed about that. His administration ship is sinking in the swamp it comes from, destined to go back to the bottom slime it came from. In the meantime, McConnell and Ryan are intent on driving the country right off a cliff.
Two years, if the country can just hold on and if the repugnantans don't take your right to vote away, they can be voted out of office and that right there will drain the end of the swamp that stinks so bad. Hard to say if the feeling we should all be very scared of what is to come from this upcoming administration, or if we should be very disgusted with it. I think both.
There are online petitions asking that the electors vote in Clinton, not much chance of that, but if enough of them do, it's a statement the repugs need to listen to.. but they won't.
Again, they have one game plan and that was to obstruct, now they are in the drivers seat and they don't have a plan to move forward, they're making it up as they go. Driving the country blind, they don't even have a handle on what the people really want, they have a plan to obstruct and they just might use it on themselves, they don't have a plan...
Keep an eye on all the illegal crap they are involved in, don't ever forget that trump is by far the most crooked president elect this country has ever had. Don't look the other way and let go of the fact that his appointees are involved illegal crap and should be in prison for what they have done and for what they think they can do.
At the very least, trump and his minions should be impeached before they even start, it's likely the only real solution to keep the country from failing on the world stage.
Songs written and performed won't have a lot of impact, but every little bit helps if trump and the trumpets are going to be defeated and go down in history as the losers they are.
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Post by Ativan Prescribed on Nov 21, 2016 1:59:48 GMT 8
“The cast and producers of Hamilton, which I hear is highly overrated, should immediately apologize to Mike Pence for their terrible behavior,”
Really?
The cast and producers of 'Trump', which I hear is highly overrated, should immediately apologize to Americans for their terrible behavior.
“The Theater must always be a safe and special place, the cast of Hamilton was very rude last night to a very good man, Mike Pence. Apologize!”
The United States of America must always be a safe and special place, the cast of 'Trump' was very rude last night to a very good population, Americans. Apologize!
Fuck trump...
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Post by Jennifer (Tink) on Nov 21, 2016 4:52:26 GMT 8
He is going to be in for a long four years if he can't even stand up to political humor .... SNL - Alec Baldwin as Fake Donald Trump - Real One doesn't like itSeriously ? Why not concentrate on what are going to do to help bring this country together when you take presidency? Political humor and satire have always been around. Either accept it or bow out please. Nothing you can do to "force" these things to stop from happening. You are not a dictator, you are the soon to be president and the person that will represent us to the rest of the world (oh god did I just say that).
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Post by Trinity on Nov 21, 2016 6:43:21 GMT 8
“The cast and producers of Hamilton, which I hear is highly overrated, should immediately apologize to Mike Pence for their terrible behavior,”Really? The cast and producers of 'Trump', which I hear is highly overrated, should immediately apologize to Americans for their terrible behavior. “The Theater must always be a safe and special place, the cast of Hamilton was very rude last night to a very good man, Mike Pence. Apologize!”The United States of America must always be a safe and special place, the cast of 'Trump' was very rude last night to a very good population, Americans. Apologize! Fuck trump... Unleash the political avante gard theater.... Oh wait We were never leashed to begin with.... because we don't need a box, all you need is a street, someone to watch, and talent. Because street theater is a real thing too. The censureship of the artist is always the first step, and its usually by controlling funding. If you fund it, you have input on the actors (which is one of the reasons why my roles in After the Wall may have gone away, the other reason is pure economics- its rough if you are not underwritten as a performer). And that is economics too, they put money in, they bring in people that are recognized names to draw the crowd. If you fund it, you can also possibly control the content. We have seen this off-Broadway. Pure theater is never controlled, it is the vision of the writer and director, combined with the backing of those able to get it up on the boards, and the brilliance of the performers to make it alive in a way that is breathtaking. Pure folk music is not controlled either, it is raw emotion captured in song, exposing the heart. Silence the artists? Good luck with that. To quote: "NOT GUNNA HAPPEN". I haven't even looked at these clips, to be honest with you. Its so much noise to me. I haven't seen Hamilton. Its trans day of remembrance. That isn't noise. But we remember every day, and whenever we walk out the door, don't we. Perry Barden
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2016 8:19:58 GMT 8
I mean really everyone? Elections have consequences. Obama said that even.
So this election had consequences and I would expect more from the left. I am neither left or right but libertarian. I hold this countries safety from enemies foreign and domestic at the core of my heart. I don't want another San Berdoo, I don't want another Orlando, I don't want another 9/11, I want a strong president with a little fiscal knowledge and some bravery to make us a strong country that idealogs will be afraid of again. We did not win the Cold War due to apologies and weakness. We won the Cold War by having strong Presidents that would not put up with the shit. I mena Fidel is dead and I really hope he burns in hell because I know a lot of Cubans that had to flee Cuba. that is real. Not all the BS about literacy and lack of prisons. Why in Cuba is there a lack of Prisons? Because Fidel sent all his criminals here and now they are in American Prisons. The Good Cuban people are happy Fidel is Dead. They are bad people? I don't fucking thinks so.
Even JFK a Democrat from Ma. faced down Castro and Russia during the Cold War. I voted Trump because I don't want this country to be weak anymore. E(fucking) nough of the apologies for being American. Yes a lot of us are white, some are yellow, some are black and some are brown and some are red. So what we are all Americans and we should feel safe in our own fucking sovereign country. I mean gays in Orlando Fl. died because of Obama's and Hillary's policies because they can't protect everyone. Just their donators.
Hate me if you want. I don't care. I paid my dues for this country and even offered to pay for assholes like Colin Kapernick for the freedom to disrespect what I would have died for all while he is making millions and I am struggling. I spent the nights in the mud and freezing or sweating my ass off for a meezly 800 dollars a month but he practices and plays a couple of games a week and makes millions per year? HMM 800x12? 16,000 per year compared to a couple+ a million a year? Where is the mutherfucking fairness in that? I would have died for this fucking country, would he? I doubt it because he lives the life of a millionaire and still asks for more. I never asked for any fucking thing in my life except respect. I did my duty but has Colin Kapernick? What the fuck has he done but went to college and play fucking football.
So hate me if you guys want but I voted trump because I want this country to feel safe again. You can hate me all you want but when my life is in danger for being trans or gay or American and considered and infidel in my own country where I have my right to be whoever and whatever but some dumbass wants to kill me for it because of some ideology then fuck you. Hate me all you want but much like I can't change who I am, I can't change how I think. Until the Dems and the Repubs come together and put this country and our safety at their hearts then I will still vote the way I feel and who I think is best for the job. I mean I don't hire drivers just because they are gay, trans or straight or however they fell about LGBTs or anything else. I pay more and I expect the best of the best from my drivers. Legal and safe.
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Post by Jennifer (Tink) on Nov 30, 2016 8:58:53 GMT 8
Jamie I don't hate you nor do I discount what you did in service of our country.
It is precisely that reason why I am very skeptical about Trump. I have said I hope he proves all the naysayers wrong. However, my own personal feelings are that he's a charlatan that is no different than the crooked people in Washington now. How many promises has he pulled back from? Yes I want a strong leader, yes I don't want to apologize for being American. But also as Americans we are more than just supposed to be strong. We are supposed to be the example for the world because exactly the ideals you have defended.
And for the record, many of us have also served, had hardships and loss. So please understand that everyone has their own reasons, ideals and principals for why they feel the way they do.
I respect yours. Please respect mine.
:hugs:
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Post by Leena on Nov 30, 2016 13:16:14 GMT 8
So hate me if you guys want but I voted trump because I want this country to feel safe again. You can hate me all you want but when my life is in danger for being trans or gay or American and considered and infidel in my own country where I have my right to be whoever and whatever but some dumbass wants to kill me for it because of some ideology then fuck you. Hate me all you want but much like I can't change who I am, I can't change how I think. Until the Dems and the Repubs come together and put this country and our safety at their hearts then I will still vote the way I feel and who I think is best for the job. I mean I don't hire drivers just because they are gay, trans or straight or however they fell about LGBTs or anything else. I pay more and I expect the best of the best from my drivers. Legal and safe. I don't hate you just disagree with your politics, my friend. I hate how this country has became so divided that some of us hate each other just over political party. I see it in my own family, and don't really want to see it here. I'm actually kind of missing the days I, and many others, didn't care about politics. You voted who you thought was best for your country and yourself, as did everyone else. You are not going to change our minds on this nor are we going to change yours.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 4:17:30 GMT 8
I know ya'll but everyone acts like this is the end of the world and its not. It was just an election. They happen every two, four and six years. Sometimes who you vote for wins and sometimes they don't. It isn't the end of the world or the end of LGBT rights. So now the Repubs hold the majority in the house and senate and the office of Presidency is held by a republican. But is he really? He has been a dem and now he is a republican. A candidate has to run with one of the two parties or they will never get elected. I have a funny feeling that he is gonna' be more independent instead of far right.
This is what really gets me about politics in the US. Jut because you are labeled then you are considered having a certain political affiliation. That is why everyone thought that Hillary had it in the bag but not so fast. Yeah we can argue popular vote all year long but there is a reason why those 2 million or so people were not counted. I remember someone voted with the name of Mickey Mouse when Obama won, twice. I remember that dead people voted even in some districts.
OK so I'm trans and I am sure that others will see me as voting democrat loyally. No. I think for myself. When I hear BS like Nancy Pelosi saying that they need to pass the AHCA to find out what is in it then that tells me she isn't doing her job. Now the law is biting a lot of people in the ass, and when someone is young they are not gonna' buy health insurance. A mandate to buy health insurance, yeah good luck with that. When I was in my 20's and 30s, healthcare was the farthest thing on my mind. Alcohol, partying and pot was first and foremost. Then rent and gas came next and staying out of jail was a third and then food and everything else. They passed it without really thinking about it for some type of agenda. I know a guy that is 21 and can get insurance through Obamacare for 100 dollars per month. that is 1200 dollars per year. He pays the 700 dollar fine because it is cheaper. That gives him 500 dollars per year more. Making 10 dollars per hour that is a lot. It seems like a lot of politicians forgot how it was when they were in their 20s.
Bill Clinton was impeached for perjury. He just wasn't kicked out of office. In my opinion he is the epitome of a misogynist. Genifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Monica Lewinsky and a few others supposedly. But he is a politician so he would never say nothing privately but with a hot mike like Trump did but talk is cheap but cumstains containing DNA is really expensive. But all along Hillary is thinking of her career and possibility of becoming president one day her self so she stayed with him. To me what is more important? My dignity or my career. Both but my dignity takes precedence over any career. But anyone that has ever been around guys no matter what age pretending to be one knows how guys talk. Disgusting? Yes but it is just big talk due to a male ego. I maybe would have voted for Hillary if she would have left Bill after the "Cum on the Dress Incident". but instead she attacked Monica Lewinsky and what Monica did is no excuse but when a girl is awestruck by someone then sometimes it happens. Promises are made and so on. when you are older you realize that it is all BS. But why attack the poor girl when the man with all the power and damned near a celebrity promises the world? But she stuck by her man because she herself is a power whore in my opinion. If I would have been Hillary then Bill would have been more famous for something else than just being the 42nd president. He would have joined the likes of John Bobbit. But apparently her self dignity is not nearly as important as her political career.
I am definitely not trying to change anyone's mind about their political affiliation and I may have voted for Hillary if I could have respected her as a strong independent woman. I always thought that I would vote for the first female presidential candidate but for me she comes with way too much baggage and I can't even respect her because she stayed with Bill even after the dress incident with his DNA to prove he cheated. I may have voted even for Bernie Sanders but the Dems were really pushing Hillary down everyone's throat.
I mean no one deserves to be president like Bill said about Hillary. It should be a service to the country like joining the military, being a cop, being a fireman and so on. It should not be a weapon to yield power with to further personal agendas on how you think the world should be. It should be a service to allow Americans to strive for life, liberty and happiness, not to force everyone in certain "Baskets" just because they may not agree with you.
It isn't politicians that dictate society but rather society that dictates what politicians should listen too. LBGT rights will continue to go forward regardless of who the president is, who has the majority in the house and senate and who is on the Supreme Court I mean marriage being an equal right was passed when the Judicial Branch had a 5 to 4 majority with a republican majority. I mean Obamacare was sold as not a tax but argued in front of the Supreme Court that the fines were indeed a tax. Which its perfectly legal for the legislative branch to levy, but why lie about it in the beginning? Which one was the lie? Does it even matter? The US government cannot force US citizens to purchase any product nor can they punish them or fine them for not buying a particular product. They can levy taxes though. I see Healtcare.gov saying to sign up to avoid paying a fine of 695 dollars or more. How can they fine me? They can tax me but it seems that they can't keep the story straight. Constitutionally they can not fine me for not buying healthcare insurance. They can tax me but not fine me. I maybe should sue but the fine is cheaper than one month of health insurance for me. Even Bill Clinton called Obamacare a joke.
Anyway, sorry for the rant but it really isn't the end of the world. There will be no LGBT task force that will round us up and put us in concentration camps. Maybe now I will have some family members and friends that put their lives on the line and actually be appreciated instead of crucified for wearing a badge. Society will continue on and what we have gained will not go backward. If it does then there is an election in two years. Then we can put back in the checks and balances. That is why we have three equal branches of government instead of a monarchy or dictatorship.
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Post by Jennifer (Tink) on Dec 1, 2016 5:31:37 GMT 8
Jamie, :hugs: Thank you for putting it so logically -- Jenn
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Post by Ativan Prescribed on Dec 5, 2016 6:07:50 GMT 8
Leave it to trump to have a clown car that is a stretch limo and he still manages to overfill it with clowns of the worse kind. The ship is listing to the starboard side and looks like it could easily go over. I've been through a lot of presidents, even one that got killed and another one who resigned rather than admit he was cheating on his taxes. Never have I seen the country so overwhelmed with not anticipation of better things to come, but of wtf have we done. I can't hardly even look at the news anymore, it's just one bozo trump thing after another, and he's left the bozo's in charge. If ever there was a president who is simply not qualified to even be on the local school board, it's trump. I'm waiting for trump to start an international incident that causes a war before he even takes office, if he can make it that far. I used to know a very rich guy who told me that his secret to success after inheriting a money making business, was to always hire people smarter than himself. In trumps case, you'd think that would be the easy thing to do, right? He's gone out of his way to find those people who are willing to shove their uninformed heads so far up his ass that he'll always have a parade behind him were ever he goes. And that's trumps idea of life in general, he needs a parade. Because without one, he's nothing.
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Post by Ativan Prescribed on Dec 13, 2016 6:37:58 GMT 8
Almost 6 million people have signed this petition for the electoral college. Not that there is any real hope of overturning it, but the statement should be made. In light of our intelligence communities revelations that the Russians messed with our elections, and that two and a half million more people voted for Clinton, the people have a right to know if the electing of trump is a sham. By the looks of trumps appointments, it sure looks like his bro' Putin is calling the shots. There is the famous statement made by the old Soviet Union that they will take us down from the inside. What better clown to do that for them than trump? electoralcollegepetition.com/one-week-left
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2016 2:05:56 GMT 8
OK here is the problem with the voting period and the popular vote. 75 percent of the population lives within 50 or so miles from the coast. So the people in Kansas should not matter? The Electoral College was a foresight to Manifest Destiny and the movement of the country going west. So if there are more red votes on the map in districts we should just listen to a few overpopulated areas that are blue to elect our president? Hillary had her chance and blew the people in the "Rust Belt" off just because she thought she had it in the bag. I mean Hillary couldn't even address her supporters after she conceded the election. How is that for a thank you or big "screw you", in my opinion? Please but the big girl panties on and at least give a thank you to your supporters. I mean for God's Sake it is just an election. The people actually run the government, by the people for the people, is embedded in this country. I mean really? No elected official is going to change the direction that society is moving toward. It is really time that career politicians lost their positions and just because you have a certain name, you don't deserve shit. People got so tired of the Clintons and Bushes I believe and why Jeb didn't do so good but hung on for so long. Much Like Bill said about Hillary, they thought they did deserve it. Bu that isn't the way it works. I remember the old Soviet Union and Communism. Right now a hamburger costs over 100 US dollars in Venezuela which is a socialist country. I mean I would hate to pull up to a drive thru at McDonalds and instead of seeing the dollar menu, a 100 dollar menu. I remember going through Basic Training and our main enemy was the Soviet Union. Oh being a POW might have been bad fighting the Russians but I would rather be shot than beheaded in an execution. I was in Somalia when the Marine was castrated and killed and dragged through the streets. Hell even in the early 90's visiting Hyundai Beach in Korea and sharing real Russian Vodka with Russian Sailors in port. No ill will, just joking about the whole Cold War thing and laughing about both of us winning it and just making friends that you thought were enemies. We shared our Bourbon with them, sat around the fire and sang both anthems of each other's nations. I wonder if I could do that with Islamic nationalities? I doubt it. I really don't know why everyone thinks that the world is ending. The sky is not falling. In WW2 if it weren't for the Russians and their fierce fighting on the German Eastern Front then... Well maybe Hitler would have had more power instead of supposedly committing suicide in a bunker. We have been allies with Russia. Then we had a Space Race with them and Sputnik was first but Americans did walk on the moon. Now we are depending on Russian Rockets to transport American Astronauts to the ISS. HMMM? Why would Russia want a stronger president in the US that wants to build up the military? Hillary would have been weak just like Obama. I mean China not putting the stairs and carpet for a sitting US president like they did with Obama. If I would have been president and they did that to me, I would have turned around and flew right out. Even though we are so in debt to China thanks to Obama, I would have flipped them off and flew right out. We do have a common enemy though and it is called Radical Islam. Not Muslims or peaceful followers of Islam but rather Radical Islam. I do not want another American killed by a radical Lone Wolf attacker like what happened in San Bernadino, Orlando, Nice France, Munich German, Brussels and so on. I want a president that says that if you attack one of our embassies, which is considered sovereign American soil just like their embassies are over here, we will retaliate and hit you harder than you hit us. Not a president or Sec. Of State that will blame a freaking youtube videos that don't really exist. I want a president that tells them for every bible or any other religious texts that you burn we will burn a Koran. I want a president that will tell them for every American Flag you burn, we will burn one of yours. I want a president that says if you hit us no matter what, we are gonna' fuck you up. One that will follow the ties and if leads back to a certain group then hit back harder. Instead of blaming firearms for the problem one that will place blame where blame should be placed. This is regardless whether the group is a radical religion right wing, left wing, Islamic, white supremacist, the new black panthers, la raza, neo Nazis or the KKK. I mean seriously though. What if North Korea or Iran gets the capabilities to send a nuclear warhead to LA or anywhere else in the US? We just let them do it? I mean what were the repercussions of Benghazi while the victims were needing help but were ignored? Nothing other than the SoS and the president blaming a freaking youtube video. Oh maybe the ambassador sent messages to the secretary of state that were supposed to be totally classified and top secret and encrypted on an unsecured server? Just maybe. I mean society and social perceptions change with the people in society. Not government elected officials. For instance the people of California voted down Prop 8 which would have made gay marriage legal in the state. Just so happens there were 5 republicans and 4 democratic justices in the supreme court when they decided that gay marriage should be a human right. I saw a lot of "Gays for Trump" signs at his rallies. Why? Maybe because some of us want to go out without the fear of being mowed down in a so called safe place by some lone Wolf Radical. Walking down the street is a different story by some idiot that wants to beat us up or kill us. I can handle that with my CCW permit. But in a club by some radical asshole that may even be gay or trans themselves but are so disgusted by it that they will kill many and themselves in the name of whatever? But seriously though, if it weren't for the Electoral College, the only people that would decide who the president is would be the NE coast and the whole W coast just because there are more people living in those places than the rest of the US as a whole. That is why the battleground states are so important in the Presidential Elections. Hillary thought she had them but... Too much has happened in the last 10 years that has effected too many people's lives and lively hoods. Besides this is a Republic and not a Monarchy. Since when did Bushes and Clintons deserve to be in office? No one deserves it and we should not listen to just two parts of the country just because there are more people living there and disregard the rest as nothing more than deplorables or not important. I mean I am paying almost 900 dollars per month for health insurance now thanks to the Affordable Care Act. I got to have it just in case and what the hell if I have to pay 100 dollars for a freakin' hamburger or 200 dollars for a half a gallon of milk? Oh yeah, the insurance I pay for has a 5000 dollar deductible so I pay for the doctor and insurance that don't work. Yeah. I know that this is a losing argument or point of view for me because the left think and assume that they have my vote just by default. I used to think that way but even as a member of the LGBT community apparently I have too much money ( Yeah I am so rich since I have 135 dollars in my bank account but have trucks and enough to take care of the trucks in my business account but I can't count on that because an engine replacement will run about 20, 000 dollars ) that I don't qualify for shit. As for the price of having an engine replaced, I have tripple that in my business account but it takes me 45 days to get paid on the trucks that I have full authority over which are two and my fuel bills and upkeep is roughly 8 thousand per month per truck so I am only 1 month from possible Bankruptcy at any given time. Oh owning a business and having 60 grand in an account is so safe and easy. BTW the 60 grand is earmarked and used already. All I have right now is 135 dollars until friday when I pay myself every bit of 400 dollars. But I don't have to listen to no one else except myself. Oh and my accountant. Oh yeah and my drivers too when they bitch about loads they don't like and so on. So less regualtion and taxes for me would be a really good thing. The oilfield picking up would also be a good thing. Hell if Obamacare gets repealed then I can finally be able to provide insurance to my drivers instead of them having to buy thier own or going to heathcare.gov in which they make too much money to qualify for assitance. So I bow out gracefully of this conversation because clearly since we are T and LGBT votes are clearly a ringer for the left, or so they think, I give up.
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