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Post by Valerie on Nov 9, 2016 14:28:56 GMT 8
Literally this has been the most stressful election year, but tonight watching & seeing Trump literally being in the lead all night is absolutely frightening!! Having to scroll through and read all my friends who are trans, literally fearing for their lives, and what will happen to them is disheartening. Literally just the thought of a Trump presidency, and republicans make conversion therapy legal!! Literally the innocent lives of LGBT youth are at stake here!! It definitely worries me thinking about not only what could happen to me losing my rights(LGBT ones that is. I still benefit from cis male white privilege) but what could happen to my brother! His father & stepmother are both homophobic, & what if they put him through conversion therapy if it becomes legal? Literally LGBT people, people of color, and others who believe in faiths other than Christianity are fearing their lives & rights being taken away. I can't even believe that Trump has made it this far!! Literally what the fuck is going through Americans head to vote for a racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic, transphobic, ableist, classist, elitist, ignorant, rapist with 0 governmental experience, or qualifications as president of the United States! This election is literally life or death, for those who aren't straight cis white wealthy Christian men! I literally can not believe we just might be setting ourselves back from all the progress we've made in equality!! What will be do if they define planned parenthood, that literally saved lives for those who can barely afford healthcare as is! What are we gonna do if no not if when, a Trump presidency makes discrimination against immigrants, and minorities even higher! Especially those who are born American citizens, or legal immigrants, but because they're not white will have to deal with the blatantly racist, xenophobic hate from people who will assume they're immigrants. We're literally talking about the lives of people being at risk! I just can't even, or fathom currently. I'm just anxious, and scared to what I will wake up to in morning! I swear to god I hope we won't become like what happened in UK, with Brexit being passed.
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Post by Valerie on Nov 9, 2016 15:25:26 GMT 8
I'm literally so fucking terrified, anxious, and about to break down in tears if Trump wins. I can't handle this!
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Post by Valerie on Nov 9, 2016 15:46:12 GMT 8
He fucking won so far omg I don't know what to do, or how to react, or I just idk... I'm really hoping Clinton, will get all the rest of the votes at last second & go right past Trump, but sadly I feel like that's too overly hopeful... this is really fucking terrifying, and devastating... I can't believe this right now I just fucking can't believe America, has chosen someone with zero experience & who is unqualified to be our president! If Trump, can become president with no experience at all then I should be able to get any job I apply for whether I have the experience/qualifications, or not! Jesus fucking Christ.... P.S. I apologize for the swearing! Is it too much?? I feel like it's well deserved from this stressful anxious rollercoaster ride tonight
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Post by Valerie on Nov 9, 2016 16:16:43 GMT 8
I'm done... I have no idea what to think or feel right now... I just really want to cry, but I can't... I feel empty & hollow right now. Majority of people chose hate & fear, over progress, love, & equality. I just really fear for LGBT+ community! What's going to happen to us? What's going to happen to minorities, immigrants, Muslim community, & people of color? I'm so fucking terrified, and disgusted with America, right now! Plus what kinda message does this send to women? No matter how experienced, or qualified for a job if you're up against a man who's clearly not fit for job you'll lose. This is absolutely devastating... I can't fucking believe this
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Post by EchelonHunt on Nov 9, 2016 17:51:58 GMT 8
I didn't realise you had made a thread. I, too, have been following the election results. I am horrified.
I live in Australia and I'm terrified for America.
And don't worry about the swearing, it's venting your frustration and anger.
Many transpeople are already concerned that their insurance will be cut off, that they won't be able to finish the process of bottom surgery they are currently undergoing or about to.
Many American friends are talking about moving to Canada or Australia. It's scary.
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Post by Trinity on Nov 9, 2016 19:09:26 GMT 8
itsxlike it was in the 60s.
Were are going to survive.
Thats what comes first.
And we stick together.
Yeah its been dangerous before and we survived it then. But we are even more high risk now.
Live.
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Post by Valerie on Nov 9, 2016 21:22:45 GMT 8
Yea, I been following the election all night on my phone. I've barely slept! I think I got 4 hours which is better than nothing. I'm on my way to counseling currently... I don't know what to talk about. I've had such an amazing birthday weekend that was positive & eventful, but now this this literally has me fearing for my life, and my loved ones lives! I don't know where to turn to. I'm not gonna post on fb because most my family all voted Trump. Or at least on my dad side did. I'm not sure about my mom's side who they voted for. I'm literally distraught, & I can't fucking believe this. I don't want to listen to a single person brag or complain who voted 3rd party. Literally I didn't like neither Clinton, or Trump, but you know what I did I sucked it up & voted for Clinton to avoid people fearing for their lives! I just fucking can't right now. I can't even handle fb right now, it's too hard to scroll through. So many of my friends, & and even my cousin who just got married to his husband last year are fearing their lives, rights being taken away, and moving to Canada. All the fear, and not knowing what to do is getting to me. Then there's my family members, and friends of my mom, or family who are celebrating Trump winning, and I'm just tearing up because they voted to have my rights taken away! They voted to put my life in jeopardy as hate crimes will sky rocket! They signed my death certificate, and celebrating it! I just can't fucking fathom any of this.
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Post by EchelonHunt on Nov 9, 2016 21:59:59 GMT 8
I know how you feel, Valerie. I was shocked when my father admitted he was glad Trump was voted in because America needed change and Hillary is a wanker for all the things she's done. We don't know what the future holds. Trump isn't a single person running the country, he has his party and unions(?) to answer to. Bills to pass laws, to undo laws, to take away rights, it will take months for these to come into effect, if they are even allowed to pass in the first place. There are many human right groups out there that will fight tooth and nail against these laws/bills as it impedes on basic human rights. Until laws are passed, stressing out and worrying will do little except sap at your overall energy. It's okay to be angry, upset and emotional, just try not to let your emotions cloud you from enjoying life as you have been before all this. ETA: I found this post on Facebook, I thought it may help
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Post by Leena on Nov 9, 2016 23:41:57 GMT 8
I haven't gotten much sleep either, Valerie. I'm pretty upset though not really surprised Trump won. I'm really more scared of what this Republican Congress is going to pass now that they have to do something other than just obstruct Obama.
Maybe just maybe Trump will be a better President than I expect. He's not really a typical conservative Republican. What his administration will be like remains to be seen.
The Federal government and especially the President really doesn't impact one's life as much as politicians make it out to be anyway. There is still quite a lot of power at the state level. It's really more important than ever to be in an LGBT friendly state.
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Post by Trinity on Nov 10, 2016 1:17:35 GMT 8
I haven't gotten much sleep either, Valerie. I'm pretty upset though not really surprised Trump won. I'm really more scared of what this Republican Congress is going to pass now that they have to do something other than just obstruct Obama. Maybe just maybe Trump will be a better President than I expect. He's not really a typical conservative Republican. What his administration will be like remains to be seen. The Federal government and especially the President really doesn't impact one's life as much as politicians make it out to be anyway. There is still quite a lot of power at the state level. It's really more important than ever to be in an LGBT friendly state. State protections are essential in this. But its serious whats going down here. It was already life threatening, ive been a hate crime victim before too. We will survive this. Somehow.
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Post by Yuki on Nov 10, 2016 11:50:00 GMT 8
It's not just Trump though that's scary. It's all of his supporters that are already out harassing PoC, LGBT and Muslim people, because they feel like they can finally get away with their hateful things now that they have a president that agrees with them. I've seen pictures posted already of the KKK out in full uniform.
So it's not just Trump.
It's all of the racists and homophobes that support him that now have no fear to act out their hate with violence.
I can't scroll through my Facebook anymore because of all of the people that are celebrating. All of the people that are laughing at people just like me. Laughing in our faces. Posting jokes. Some are people I didn't even know would be voting for Trump, who I now feel like I will never be able to trust. Because they hate me. They don't even realize that they hate me, but they do.
I thought I could just ignore it. I thought I could be respectful of who other people voted for. But not when I see this. None of them are being respectful at all.
Everyone that I talk to the most are the ones who put me in danger and are openly celebrating it.
I don't know how to feel.
The trans group is this Sunday. I need it... I need to be around others who are like me, who don't hate me. But I'm scared to go.
Not because of Trump's ugly orange self.
But because of the hate he stirred up and brought to the surface and made it seem acceptable. Dangerous people will be out in numbers with their dangerous ideas for a little while.
Stay safe, all of you.
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Post by Trinity on Nov 10, 2016 12:08:08 GMT 8
It's not just Trump though that's scary. It's all of his supporters that are already out harassing PoC, LGBT and Muslim people, because they feel like they can finally get away with their hateful things now that they have a president that agrees with them. I've seen pictures posted already of the KKK out in full uniform. So it's not just Trump. It's all of the racists and homophobes that support him that now have no fear to act out their hate with violence. I can't scroll through my Facebook anymore because of all of the people that are celebrating. All of the people that are laughing at people just like me. Laughing in our faces. Posting jokes. Some are people I didn't even know would be voting for Trump, who I now feel like I will never be able to trust. Because they hate me. They don't even realize that they hate me, but they do. I thought I could just ignore it. I thought I could be respectful of who other people voted for. But not when I see this. None of them are being respectful at all. Everyone that I talk to the most are the ones who put me in danger and are openly celebrating it. I don't know how to feel. The trans group is this Sunday. I need it... I need to be around others who are like me, who don't hate me. But I'm scared to go. Not because of Trump's ugly orange self. But because of the hate he stirred up and brought to the surface and made it seem acceptable. Dangerous people will be out in numbers with their dangerous ideas for a little while. Stay safe, all of you. Got the stare thing a lot on train tonight. One in particular. He has no fucking idea what i would do to him if he actually threatened me. Ny wont have this bs. The city is pissed tonight. America has shown its true colors and its the same fuckers that screwed my head up in the 60s. Well they got a monster on their hands now.
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Post by Yuki on Nov 10, 2016 12:30:18 GMT 8
I'm just glad we don't live in Georgia, anymore. I got stares there, even as a cis person. I don't know why. That's when I was trying to blend in. And even then I got stares for whatever reason. Maybe I loook funny? I can't imagine how bad it would be now. That entire city probably voted Trump. I know hubby's family did. And we would still be living in the same house as them. Here, people don't stare as much as in Georgia. But it's still conservative. I havent been out yet. This will be the one time I am thankful for not being able to work. I can stay at home and hide for as long as I need to. I'm lucky there. I'm not very privileged. Not white, not cis, not straight, definitely not wealthy. The only thing I have going for me is my light skin. If I were darker, I'd be even more scared. Or Muslim. They might have it the hardest right now.
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Post by EchelonHunt on Nov 10, 2016 19:26:04 GMT 8
Someone quoted this scene in one of the reddit election threads. It couldn't have been more fitting and it was LOTR of all things.
Frodo: I can't do this, Sam.
Sam: I know. It's all wrong. By rights we shouldn't even be here. But we are. It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy.
Sam: How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer.
Sam: Those were the stories that stayed with you. That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going. Because they were holding on to something.
Frodo: What are we holding on to, Sam? Sam: That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for.
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Post by Yuki on Nov 11, 2016 10:03:24 GMT 8
I love Sam! And I love that scene!
And that actually makes me feel better about everything's than anything else I've read. It's true. This will all pass. The younger generations are more open to us, and are more knowledgeable about racism and everything else, too, than the older generations.
Maybe this is the older generation's last stand against us before their hate is defeated.
They see all of us, talking about these issues, and they say they're tired to all of the "PC bullshit".
Trump is their way of trying to silence it.
But their hate will die out with them, and willl slowly be replaced with acceptance. It might not happen quickly, but it is already slowly happening.
We just have to survive to see that day.
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