Transgender and Christian.?

[Laura J]

I've watched this several times in the past year, and it always kept me thinking more clearly when I would get confused about these things. 

I Especially thought of you Trinity, because this trans man has a past with alcohol similar to yours in some ways.. 

It's just a really good video.. 
Enjoy. 

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Ok so I'm not Trinity but good video.

OMFG I don't want to start anything else that is gonna' tear people apart. But if you or anyone else wants to believe in Christ, go ahead. I do. Some may not like it but it is not up to them. Ultimately it is up to Yeshuah and God. Ultimately God even. I shouldn't even say this for fear of whatever. But you my fried are on your own path. follow what you feel is Yeshua's teachings, He will never lead you astry.. I have no say so on your path and no one else does either. You have to go the way that draws you.

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Mar 11, 2015 7:20:13 GMT 8 @jamie said:

Ok so I'm not Trinity but good video.

OMFG I don't want to start anything else that is gonna' tear people apart. But if you or anyone else wants to believe in Christ, go ahead. I do. Some may not like it but it is not up to them. Ultimately it is up to Yeshuah and God. Ultimately God even. I shouldn't even say this for fear of whatever. But you my fried are on your own path. follow what you feel is Yeshua's teachings, He will never lead you astry.. I have no say so on your path and no one else does either. You have to go the way that draws you.

I'm half way through it. I like it too.

Gotta go. Time is a challenge now...

Hi Jamie...:-)

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OMG I just messed up again. This is Gnostic teachings. So a big disclaimer even though I will own my beliefs and  would die for ever bit of them. This is in the general thread an not the Christianity thread so I will say that I would sacrifice everything so that everyone her can find peace and happiness. So it is not about me in the least. This is truly how I feel. I would die for each and everyone of you my friends, my family and so on. It don't happen like that though but I would if I could. I don't want to be misunderstood again. But I love you all. No never worry about me. Nut if I could take all your pain away and experience myself I would. That is what true friendship is. that is the whole ideal of Christian is about. Would you sacrifice like Christ did.

Some will say bullshit but I would in a heart beat. OMG I don't want ro be crucified but I would sacrifice myself for everyone. This is no BS. Just please make it quick. I don't have the courage of Christ.

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Mar 11, 2015 7:31:28 GMT 8 @jamie said:

OMG I just messed up again. This is Gnostic teachings. So a big disclaimer even though I will own my beliefs and  would die for ever bit of them. This is in the general thread an not the Christianity thread so I will say that I would sacrifice everything so that everyone her can find peace and happiness. So it is not about me in the least. This is truly how I feel. I would die for each and everyone of you my friends, my family and so on. It don't happen like that though but I would if I could. I don't want to be misunderstood again. But I love you all. No never worry about me. Nut if I could take all your pain away and experience myself I would. That is what true friendship is. that is the whole ideal of Christian is about. Would you sacrifice like Christ did.

Some will say bullshit but I would in a heart beat. OMG I don't want ro be crucified but I would sacrifice myself for everyone. This is no BS. Just please make it quick. I don't have the courage of Christ.

Hehehe Jamie, you're a cute kid in my estimation! 

If it was 30+ years ago and I was fit again I'd pound your ass and we'd have a few drinks together and hugs just to show my approval.

[Laura J]

Lol, chilax Jamie.!
Post away, your views are every bit as important as anyone else's.

Yeah, I posted it in the "spirituality" forum, and there's no monopoly on views here.
This wasn't just for Trinity, parts of it just reminded me of h'er journey, but its just for anyone interested.

You're views are important.!

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Mar 11, 2015 7:47:31 GMT 8 Laura J said:

Lol, chilax Jamie.!
Post away, your views are every bit as important as anyone else's.

Yeah, I posted it in the "spirituality" forum, and there's no monopoly on views here.
This wasn't just for Trinity, parts of it just reminded me of h'er journey, but its just for anyone interested.

You're views are important.!

No monopolies anywhere, just differing paradynes, and places where triggers live.   Boundaries, respect for trigger hot spots really.  I trigger on other threads, it doesnt matter, I just stay off them and dont comment, so i dont upset my dear friends.  Not criticizing, just saying what seems to work for me.

Yeah this is what was intended in separating the discussion sections.  Its to protect our needs, everyones.

Looking forward to finish the video.  I liked what I got to so far.

And am delighted to have Jamie back in play.

Wildwoman Jamie.  LOL.  Naughtier than I am, that one is.

Let me get back out of the spotlight here, take it away, bring on the next scene.

And thanks Mark, this is totally cool

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Mar 11, 2015 7:47:31 GMT 8 Laura J said:

Lol, chilax Jamie.!
Post away, your views are every bit as important as anyone else's.

Yeah, I posted it in the "spirituality" forum, and there's no monopoly on views here.
This wasn't just for Trinity, parts of it just reminded me of h'er journey, but its just for anyone interested.

You're views are important.!

Ah I am but I just had to take a jab at Shan.  Sorry Shan. I couldn't resist.  No I am chillaxed I would just rather everyone to know right off hand where my views are coming from. They do come from the more mystical side of Christianity though.

Personally any one that thinks that you can't be a different sexual orientation, gender identification, or anything else and still be a very spiritual person Christian, Islamic or whatever really need to read the part about judging. If you hide what you are doing like a lot of people that I have met over the years that claimed "Spiritual Purity" and a certainty that they are going to Heaven but you need special attention. Why hide anything? If you hide something it is usually in the same category as a lie at least if you embrace who you are you are true to yourself and those around you. I don't know if that makes any sense to anyone but me though.

So say being trans or gay or bi lesbian is a sin. Is it really as bad as beating your children? Is it as bad as killing someone for anything other than self defense? Are these things as bad as child molestation? Are they as bad as stealing? So I would say if being trans has it's own level in Dante's Inferno, then it won't be the worst level for sure. 

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Mar 12, 2015 1:48:10 GMT 8 @jamie said:

Mar 11, 2015 7:47:31 GMT 8 Laura J said:

Lol, chilax Jamie.!
Post away, your views are every bit as important as anyone else's.

Yeah, I posted it in the "spirituality" forum, and there's no monopoly on views here.
This wasn't just for Trinity, parts of it just reminded me of h'er journey, but its just for anyone interested.

You're views are important.!

Ah I am but I just had to take a jab at Shan.  Sorry Shan. I couldn't resist.  No I am chillaxed I would just rather everyone to know right off hand where my views are coming from. They do come from the more mystical side of Christianity though.

Personally any one that thinks that you can't be a different sexual orientation, gender identification, or anything else and still be a very spiritual person Christian, Islamic or whatever really need to read the part about judging. If you hide what you are doing like a lot of people that I have met over the years that claimed "Spiritual Purity" and a certainty that they are going to Heaven but you need special attention. Why hide anything? If you hide something it is usually in the same category as a lie at least if you embrace who you are you are true to yourself and those around you. I don't know if that makes any sense to anyone but me though.

So say being trans or gay or bi lesbian is a sin. Is it really as bad as beating your children? Is it as bad as killing someone for anything other than self defense? Are these things as bad as child molestation? Are they as bad as stealing? So I would say if being trans has it's own level in Dante's Inferno, then it won't be the worst level for sure. 

Not bad Jamie, you're right on the mark with all of that! Sin is sin, failure is failure, imperfection is imperfection, God said so and felt sorry for us all and sent His own Son to pay the price for all of us once and for all! There are no perfect humans, just us naughty boys and girls here on the big rock, so if God wanted to keep us than He had to come up with the solution to the rule He made that the soul that sins will die. More than fair, count me in on that plan and thank you Jesus!

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Mar 12, 2015 2:33:21 GMT 8 Shan said:

Mar 12, 2015 1:48:10 GMT 8 @jamie said:

Ah I am but I just had to take a jab at Shan.  Sorry Shan. I couldn't resist.  No I am chillaxed I would just rather everyone to know right off hand where my views are coming from. They do come from the more mystical side of Christianity though.

Personally any one that thinks that you can't be a different sexual orientation, gender identification, or anything else and still be a very spiritual person Christian, Islamic or whatever really need to read the part about judging. If you hide what you are doing like a lot of people that I have met over the years that claimed "Spiritual Purity" and a certainty that they are going to Heaven but you need special attention. Why hide anything? If you hide something it is usually in the same category as a lie at least if you embrace who you are you are true to yourself and those around you. I don't know if that makes any sense to anyone but me though.

So say being trans or gay or bi lesbian is a sin. Is it really as bad as beating your children? Is it as bad as killing someone for anything other than self defense? Are these things as bad as child molestation? Are they as bad as stealing? So I would say if being trans has it's own level in Dante's Inferno, then it won't be the worst level for sure. 

Not bad Jamie, you're right on the mark with all of that! Sin is sin, failure is failure, imperfection is imperfection, God said so and felt sorry for us all and sent His own Son to pay the price for all of us once and for all! There are no perfect humans, just us naughty boys and girls here on the big rock, so if God wanted to keep us than He had to come up with the solution to the rule He made that the soul that sins will die. More than fair, count me in on that plan and thank you Jesus!

Yeah Shan. I have seen hypocrisy first hand. Coming from a state that has dry and wet counties and with my mom being a pretty big Pentecostal believer, I have seen a couple of preachers from the various churches that she would visit that could drive to the county line and buy alcohol. Then speak against drinking the next Wednesday night or Sunday morning or night. Of course I was always mistaken when I brought it up to her. Hell one I met in a bar at the line between a dry county and a wet county and he even hit on me. That I never told her about.

But yeah I have my own sins just like everyone else. Mine aren't as bad as others though but still sin none the less. No one is perfect if we were then we probably wouldn't be on this rock in the first place.

[Laura J]

Jamies views are her own and understood, and respected.

My view is simply this..
Christianity is far simpler than most make it,
Its the simplest concept in the world.
Its the acknowledgement that
God loves you so much, he sent his only son
Jesus to shed his blood, and die on a cross,
to pay the price for your sin, take your deserved
Punishment, so you never have to, and can pass into heaven
and be with God. It is a FREE gift, it requires
nothing from you, only that you believe..
Thats all there is to it.
Christianity is NOT a religion, its an intimate
relationship with Jesus Christ.

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Mar 12, 2015 3:00:23 GMT 8 Laura J said:

Jamies views are her own and understood, and respected.

My view is simply this..
Christianity is far simpler than most make it,
Its the simplest concept in the world.
Its the acknowledgement that
God loves you so much, he sent his only son
Jesus to shed his blood, and die on a cross,
to pay the price for your sin, take your deserved
Punishment, so you never have to, and can pass into heaven
and be with God. It is a FREE gift, it requires
nothing from you, only that you believe..
Thats all there is to it.
Christianity is NOT a religion, its an intimate
relationship with Jesus Christ.

That my dear friend is true wisdom. I may be more Gnostic in my belief other's may believe different but in the end that last statement is what it's all about no matter how you believe.

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Mar 12, 2015 3:26:48 GMT 8 @jamie said:

Mar 12, 2015 3:00:23 GMT 8 Laura J said:

Jamies views are her own and understood, and respected.

My view is simply this..
Christianity is far simpler than most make it,
Its the simplest concept in the world.
Its the acknowledgement that
God loves you so much, he sent his only son
Jesus to shed his blood, and die on a cross,
to pay the price for your sin, take your deserved
Punishment, so you never have to, and can pass into heaven
and be with God. It is a FREE gift, it requires
nothing from you, only that you believe..
Thats all there is to it.
Christianity is NOT a religion, its an intimate
relationship with Jesus Christ.

That my dear friend is true wisdom. I may be more Gnostic in my belief other's may believe different but in the end that last statement is what it's all about no matter how you believe.

10-4 good buddy, that's where the rubber really meets the road!