Transsexuals - without the op?

[Shan]

Best part of your brain vomit is this: 

*** I don't condone violence at all, considering a day before this guy posted that comment, I had mentioned on one of the transmen threads that I'm agender and I'm transitioning to male (including hysto & phallo), and he makes that comment? People only express violence online to feel big and tough when they are really insecure. If we ever met, it'd be funny if I dropped him to the ground with one punch and be like, "Oh, I'm sorry. Getting hit by a genderless fairy must hurt your male pride real bad. At least, I have better hair than you do!"

[EchelonHunt]

I'm a feisty little thing, aren't I?

[Shan]

Feb 9, 2016 0:35:36 GMT 8 EchelonHunt said:

I'm a feisty little thing, aren't I?

Indeed, remind me to never cross you! 

[Trinity]

Interesting thread.

In some ways I don't like to identify as strictly nonbinary, because of the fact of the intensity of the gender body dysphoria. So although I identify as nonbinary because of who I am socially, I also identify as a transsexual because I need and did change my body over, am always wearing female things even if under male clothing- same as many women do - and in the core physically am female bodied and need to be. With or without a penis - that little thing does not create a label for my gender, its less than what, 2% of my body? The other 98% is full transitioned?

But its this animosity thing. I really don't like that. I have never been in the not trans enough crowd, nobody has ever questioned me, and I don't think anyone would dare to. I am a fiesty little thing too.

But as far as I am concerned, the moment I am in a docs office or fighting for hormones or whatever else I am going to need, I am at that point transsexual. Its the difference between a social aspect and a body requirement. And that is why I went for the label. I have that body requirement, I have that identity requirement. Just don't need to reveal it to people socially, why should I? Either they don't understand, or will destroy my job and marriage, or will think I am God knows what, and that I belong in hell. Its a heck of a lot easier on me to blend in. Or when I feel fiesty, which is most of the time, leave the clues on, there are plenty, and stick to my guns that yes, I am a full on transsexual person or a transperson if you wish, even though you are not seeing a girly girl in front of you. Because what i show you may not be all of who I am, and its not your business, cisperson, to go looking up my dress to see if I should be in your bathroom, or down my shirt either if its the mens room.

It really comes down to this, on the forum, all I was doing was expressing my need to be full bodied female. So I was using the word transsexual to show that I have that need, that I am really full out all the time, but I wear a Harry Potter invisibility cloak, so that the hounds of Mordor don't continue with the abuse I have suffered all my life because I am trans.

Cowards way out to go stealth? Maybe, but I have a family to feed.

Thoughts are welcome. Don't worry about pissing me off and dont read into the disappearance of my gender markers and pronouns, I am in a bad mood today because of my hormone fight. The epitome of having to be "trans enough" legally for insurance based on the old Harry Benjamine rules, which exclude me from surgery according to insurance, they say I am not trans enough to qualify for it. Because I have to be a stereotypical girl at work instead of a girl in a suit, and lose my job to get the surgery. Which I would then not be able to afford the copay for. Contrary to the SOC 7.

Yup bad mood indeed.

[Deleted]

Just another fucking label. I am sexual. I am trans. I have a preferred gender but present as my birth gender quite a bit. What the hell am I? Who really cares? I don't. I just live my life to the best of my abilities and express myself how I want and screw whoever has a problem with it. So would that make me Transgendernonopnonbinaysexualbigaylesbian? Why worry about what someone will call you? Shit worst yet, why worry about labeling yourself. I label myself human. On a lighter note though howoman. Shit that was sexist.  Oh well. What do you expect from a self proclaimed tranny/shemale? Seriously though, I think it's time we owned the words we are called and tell the ones that use it in a negative way to screw off.

OK so no disrespect here. Some may need the full transition others my not and need just HRT and others yet may not feel the need for anything. What makes a man and what makes a woman? Is it penis or vagina? Is it thinking and emotions and the way we express them? Gender dysphoria is a big problem and I say go for if it causes someone great psychological pain. Hell I'm a "chick with a dick". Screw it. If someone wants to kill me or beat me or hurt me because of that, I don't try to fool anyone. Everyone that I meet that I'm attracted to I tell within the first few words I speak to them. But I go places that it is accepted though. If I go out with girlfriends then I shun any advances from cismales unless one of my friends let me know something about them and their preferences or kinks.

Just stop trying to label yourself. You are You and the people that can't accept that, fuck'em. They can't live your life and you can't live theirs.

I am who I am and I already know that I am an asshole.  Been called that enough in my life. But my expression and individuality is separate from society's norm and I don't care. I am an individual and a unique individual and we all are. I can pass a lot of times considering where I live. There are more manly looking women down here than me. But if anyone asks I will tell them. I will definitely tell them if I am out and am attracted to them so they know exactly what they are getting. They may kill but they prolly' won't eat me since cannibalism is taboo. Even in Louisiana.

I would say stop it with the labeling and just either be male or female or a combination of the two.

But seriously speaking. Anyone thinking of surgery, that is up to you. But you really don't need it. You are all handsome and beautiful. You are all unique and special.

OK so this will sound really screwed up but I wouldn't mind being a cis female but since I am not then it is kind of comforting wearing sexy lingerie. It is kind of comforting wearing panties. Its comforting having long hair. Its comforting wearing makeup going out en femme. It is fun wearing high heels and keeping your balance and learning how to do so. It is more of a luxury and more satisfying shaving my legs and underarms instead of a chore. Most if not all cis women take these things for granted. I cherish them because it is who I am. Same with the guys. Going to get a haircut is a pain in the ass as a guy. Shaving your face everyday is a pain in the ass unless you like the lumberjack look. Loose pants suck and all guys clothes look the same. Then you have the shoes. Boots, tennis shoes or hiking boots or shoes. Hairy underarms and legs. Oh I love all this on guys but not on me.

So this is for the guys and us girls, try to at least enjoy who you are and what you do and what you feel about it. Cis people take all this for granted, we embrace all these chores and actually cherish them because they make us feel right. Cis people generally take all these chores and discomforts as an inconvenience. We love the feelings and lovingly do these things. I really don't know how to explain it but I can have hair on my legs and under my arms and still be trans. But I feel more sensual without? I like guys so I could be gay and have more of a pool to choose from but I can't. I am who and what I am. No excuses and no apologies.

[Taka]

transsexual is a rather medical way to describe it. the way i read it is "born with the wrong (binary) physical sex". but it might be better to change it to transsex sometime in the future, so it won't be confused too much with sexuality. makes it similar to intersex as well, coining both as a physical condition that may be corrected.

so much easier to speak languages that didn't think up different terms for sex and gender, they're the same and encompass all to do with body and mind. then we can just loan the "sexual" word for stuff to do with sexuality.

[Mingma]

Feb 20, 2016 7:13:57 GMT 8 @jamie said:

OK so this will sound really screwed up but I wouldn't mind being a cis female but since I am not then it is kind of comforting wearing sexy lingerie. It is kind of comforting wearing panties. Its comforting having long hair. Its comforting wearing makeup going out en femme. It is fun wearing high heels and keeping your balance and learning how to do so. It is more of a luxury and more satisfying shaving my legs and underarms instead of a chore. Most if not all cis women take these things for granted. I cherish them because it is who I am. Same with the guys. Going to get a haircut is a pain in the ass as a guy. Shaving your face everyday is a pain in the ass unless you like the lumberjack look. Loose pants suck and all guys clothes look the same. Then you have the shoes. Boots, tennis shoes or hiking boots or shoes. Hairy underarms and legs. Oh I love all this on guys but not on me.

So this is for the guys and us girls, try to at least enjoy who you are and what you do and what you feel about it. Cis people take all this for granted, we embrace all these chores and actually cherish them because they make us feel right. Cis people generally take all these chores and discomforts as an inconvenience. We love the feelings and lovingly do these things. I really don't know how to explain it but I can have hair on my legs and under my arms and still be trans. But I feel more sensual without? I like guys so I could be gay and have more of a pool to choose from but I can't. I am who and what I am. No excuses and no apologies.

Doesn't sound screwed up at all.  I would be thrilled to have been born with a vagina.  But then I wouldn't know anyone here would I? I am almost always dressed, coiffed and made up as a woman.  When I'm not it is because I'm doing something that makes dressing and looking like that inconvenient.  Splitting wood for example.  But I'm not cis and I really don't know what that would feel like.

I like guys too (and girls as well).  I had to laugh because I gave living gay a fair shot but when I began to explore the reality of being trans found I was pretty much cast out of that dating pool.  So since my insurance just approved me for gender confirmation surgery, I'll have a neovagina in 2017 and maybe see what straight cis guys have to offer.  Might be fun. 

How I internally identify regarding gender and sexually isn't nearly as important as owning who I am and living as I feel is an authentic expression of that reality however it sloshes about inside my head and over my breasts. "I am who and what I am. No excuses and no apologies." - right on!


Ming

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Feb 24, 2016 23:24:41 GMT 8 Mingma said:

Feb 20, 2016 7:13:57 GMT 8 @jamie said:

OK so this will sound really screwed up but I wouldn't mind being a cis female but since I am not then it is kind of comforting wearing sexy lingerie. It is kind of comforting wearing panties. Its comforting having long hair. Its comforting wearing makeup going out en femme. It is fun wearing high heels and keeping your balance and learning how to do so. It is more of a luxury and more satisfying shaving my legs and underarms instead of a chore. Most if not all cis women take these things for granted. I cherish them because it is who I am. Same with the guys. Going to get a haircut is a pain in the ass as a guy. Shaving your face everyday is a pain in the ass unless you like the lumberjack look. Loose pants suck and all guys clothes look the same. Then you have the shoes. Boots, tennis shoes or hiking boots or shoes. Hairy underarms and legs. Oh I love all this on guys but not on me.

So this is for the guys and us girls, try to at least enjoy who you are and what you do and what you feel about it. Cis people take all this for granted, we embrace all these chores and actually cherish them because they make us feel right. Cis people generally take all these chores and discomforts as an inconvenience. We love the feelings and lovingly do these things. I really don't know how to explain it but I can have hair on my legs and under my arms and still be trans. But I feel more sensual without? I like guys so I could be gay and have more of a pool to choose from but I can't. I am who and what I am. No excuses and no apologies.

Doesn't sound screwed up at all.  I would be thrilled to have been born with a vagina.  But then I wouldn't know anyone here would I? I am almost always dressed, coiffed and made up as a woman.  When I'm not it is because I'm doing something that makes dressing and looking like that inconvenient.  Splitting wood for example.  But I'm not cis and I really don't know what that would feel like.

I like guys too (and girls as well).  I had to laugh because I gave living gay a fair shot but when I began to explore the reality of being trans found I was pretty much cast out of that dating pool.  So since my insurance just approved me for gender confirmation surgery, I'll have a neovagina in 2017 and maybe see what straight cis guys have to offer.  Might be fun. 

How I internally identify regarding gender and sexually isn't nearly as important as owning who I am and living as I feel is an authentic expression of that reality however it sloshes about inside my head and over my breasts. "I am who and what I am. No excuses and no apologies." - right on!


Ming

Without getting into the "spiritual" side of things but sometimes we are born a certain way for a reason. Whatever that reason is, I don't have a clue but I will at least bet that each are unique just as everyone is a unique individual.

You know. We really hurt and long and are unsatisfied with out bodies. But I don't think we are that unusual because if we were, there wouldn't be as many cosmetic surgeons as there are. Most people are unsatisfied with their bodies such as short penises, too big vaginas, to fat, too skinny, to ugly, some have chicken legs, other's have 'cankles', some have too flat butts others have too big butts and some have too small breasts and others too big breasts. With alopecia, obesity, anorexia and bulimia not to mention all the cosmetic surgery being done tells me a lot of people are unsatisfied with their bodies. It is just our gender perceptions goes with that dissatisfaction. Personally I do what I can with the body. If that is not enough for someone then sorry. We weren't meant to be anyway. So some may see me as gay or bi. Others may see me as transgender or transexual but I would prefer everyone to see me as who I really am. Just me.

[Shan]

For the record I got that and couldn't agree more Jamie! Just think of all the cis women and their hang-ups about their bodies, their lists goes on forever.

[Taka]

cis guys have just as many complexes about their bodies. they just don't talk as much about it. and i suspect many women pretend to be more dissatisfied than they are.

as easy it is to wish i were born differently, i still realize that anything other than just the way i am, would be someone else. even if i were only born a short while sooner or layer, that may have turned out someone else.

so i'll just be happy to be who i am, since that means i am. for what if i weren't...

[Shan]

Feb 29, 2016 5:09:24 GMT 8 Taka said:

cis guys have just as many complexes about their bodies. they just don't talk as much about it. and i suspect many women pretend to be more dissatisfied than they are.

as easy it is to wish i were born differently, i still realize that anything other than just the way i am, would be someone else. even if i were only born a short while sooner or layer, that may have turned out someone else.

so i'll just be happy to be who i am, since that means i am. for what if i weren't...

I like your plan to just be you. I was chatting up a cute gal with that real curly lambie pie hair and she was saying how she hated it, I had to laugh and tell her that many women with totally straight hair would trade with her in a heartbeat. Seems that no one is really happy with the way they are equipped, I think it's just a normal part of being human.

[Taka]

if humans had a habit of being happy with how things are, we would have no technological advance, and internet wouldn't even be a dream within a dream.

we just have to learn where to stop wanting to change everything.

[Deleted]

Oh hell I have hang ups about my body too. I have boobs but need a bigger booty.

Do I need the Op to be me. No. Do some people, yeah. But Taka as for the tech race, that isn't about the body but rather human nature of reaching for the stars or the impossible or just rather imagination in general. Human curiosity pushes us forward. Unfortunately human prejudices still keep us down though. Eventually we are not gonna' be that way though and we are just experiencing the beginning. Eventually we will be as normal human beings as strictly male and female. Evolution is amazing. 

[Shan]

Mar 4, 2016 5:26:00 GMT 8 @jamie said:

Oh hell I have hang ups about my body too. I have boobs but need a bigger booty.

Do I need the Op to be me. No. Do some people, yeah. But Taka as for the tech race, that isn't about the body but rather human nature of reaching for the stars or the impossible or just rather imagination in general. Human curiosity pushes us forward. Unfortunately human prejudices still keep us down though. Eventually we are not gonna' be that way though and we are just experiencing the beginning. Eventually we will be as normal human beings as strictly male and female. Evolution is amazing. 

You can have at least half of my booty as I'm not too fond of a big caboose on myself. I finally outgrew men's cut jeans and had to resort to women's because they are cut to accommodate a bigger keister and I'm hooked on the stretchy material.