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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 8:32:25 GMT 8
There was once a time many years ago when it seemed a curtain had parted, and the craziness of culture showed itself. The grand illusion of this world. Truly a matrix.
In that light, from the place of detachment, it all seems somewhat silly somehow.
Deviating from the peer pressure, seeing from the eyes of the artist, if we can. Where it all really is the stage.
Now, do we write the script, or do we let others write it...and who's the audience...
That can take you places.
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Post by Ativan Prescribed on Jul 6, 2015 10:00:33 GMT 8
How much of others perception do you expect when you are doing something? If it's for others, then sure, it's a role of sorts. We all play roles for different reasons.
But specifically, gender roles and the expectation that we need to be confined by them is the consideration. Not throwing a thing out, just making it clear that expectation of anyone having to play a gender role to appease society is bull. You have a gender, you can play any role you want, it doesn't change your gender.
Roles are the masks we wear, we use them because they will get us something or it will do something for someone else. Sometimes that works together, it's enjoyable for all involved. But there isn't a role that defines gender, gender just is, no matter how well you play that role. Some people are forced to do just that, play some gender role, it doesn't change their gender. You can play a role that reflects your gender, but to call it a gender role implies that it defines your gender, it doesn't. It can be exactly like it from your point of view, but it still doesn't define your gender. Gender is real, it is an innate sense of self, it is a part of it, it's as real as you are.
So the roles that people think of as gender roles are just that, roles, we create them out of our imagination. And those are not real in the sense that they don't define your gender. You play the role of a cowboy because you are a cowboy, but if you changed the role, are you no longer a cowboy? They are imaginary and everyone plays them, for whatever reason(s). The world is a stage and we express ourselves on it. But if you play the male role, does that make you a man? See what I mean?
Not throwing anything out or away, just making the distinction, that roles don't make the person. Even if the role fits perfectly, it didn't make the person, the person is. So roles are imaginary because they don't create anything, they are the illusions that most people work behind. They can change perceptions, they can't create a perception, but a perception is a reaction to it. Because they are so ingrained into how we communicate, they can seem to create a perception, they can't even create the illusion of perception, we do that ourselves, self. The masks we wear.
Your gender is real, you are real, the way we present either/both doesn't necessarily confine itself to the true you. Who I am and who you are is different for every other person, we treat different people differently, but that doesn't define our gender and really, doesn't define us. People like to think it does and we talk like it does, but does it really? No, it defines the role, nothing more. You stay the same. You can be close, it can even be the same, but it isn't what really defines you, is it? It most certainly doesn't define ones gender. How could it?
Gender comes before the roles that are played, gender is real, the roles are not. We create the roles from our imaginations, we are real, the roles are based on our imagination. You are real, the roles are not. That doesn't mean they are worthless or wrong, it simply means that you really can't define a person and certainly their gender by a role you see them playing, even if it is for you. Roles are a part of how we communicate, but does that define our gender? Gender is what we think it is and we discuss variations on a theme, the stuff of our imaginations, when we try to define them. We use roles as examples of what our gender might be or is, but they didn't create gender. We created them as examples, as a way to talk about them, those aren't real things, those are just imagined things or ways we go about talking about them. In the true sense, they are imaginary, because they are creations of our imaginations, the way we communicate. Created out of our imaginations, they aren't something that stands on their own, we have to use them or they don't exist, when we aren't using them, they are not here. Imagination, we created them, they didn't create us.
In a discussion of gender, gender roles, and gender stereotypes, the only thing that is real, tangible is our gender. Even our sex is not the same thing, yet it is just as real, it isn't something we created to stir others imaginations, but the roles and the things we say are. They come from our imagination, they are imaginary, illusions we use. That isn't to say they are bad or that we don't even need them, it would seem that we do, but we created them out of nothing but our imagination, so they are just that.
There isn't such a thing as gender roles other than in our imagination, no matter how hard you try to believe they are a real thing. They remain our imagination. Take them away and we are still ourselves, self, our gender remains the same, our sex remains the same. Take gender away and we change, we are no longer the same self... You are not a role, roles are something we use to communicate with, they come from our imagination, they are an illusion created in our imagination. Just because people talk about them as if they are real doesn't make them real, they are not tangible things, like our gender, self.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 10:08:36 GMT 8
You ever feel like self...core...is watching it all play out,, knowing there is something more?
Core always is aware that it's a play. That it's response to environment based on experience.
Core...commentary.
And that knows if something is forced, false, true, or a dominant component forcing its part on the rest.
An inner dialogue.
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