what's the difference between physical, social, and core gen

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Since I have this mtf physical thing, and fluid social becoming more blended as I get more comfortable presenting genderqueer, and core now the interesting dance of multiplicity in simultaneous notmale or not female perception, that's hard to explain...

So what's the diff, what's the factor that sets up identity? Based on my stuff, I appear to be... multifaceted. The diamond core of trans, for me.

Just curious. The girl physical thing is really getting strong there days.

So is jealousy and other emotions regarding ciswomen and their natural bodies.

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Dec 1, 2014 5:35:43 GMT 8 Trinity said:

Since I have this mtf physical thing, and fluid social becoming more blended as I get more comfortable presenting genderqueer, and core now the interesting dance of multiplicity in simultaneous notmale or not female perception, that's hard to explain...

So what's the diff, what's the factor that sets up identity? Based on my stuff, I appear to be... multifaceted. The diamond core of trans, for me.

Just curious. The girl physical thing is really getting strong there days.

So is jealousy and other emotions regarding ciswomen and their natural bodies.

To be clear does the physical trump the rest, the presentation, core perception...I think socially they just see this guy that has spare parts...

I am not making sense. Gee taka nailed he said iiget confusing sometimes...big brother :-)

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Dec 1, 2014 5:47:36 GMT 8 Trinity said:

Dec 1, 2014 5:35:43 GMT 8 Trinity said:

To be clear does the physical trump the rest, the presentation, core perception...I think socially they just see this guy that has spare parts...

I am not making sense. Gee taka nailed he said iiget confusing sometimes...big brother :-)

I dunno hon, I avoid overthinking this kind of stuff as it only serves to drive one nuts.

[Ayla]

SJ

I think that we are multi-facted. In a sense much like a diamond. The cut, quality and shape of the diamond determines its brilliance. In addition depending upon how the diamond is turned to the light and the quality/type of light will impact the experience of folk looking at or regarding the diamond. While I am not sure how a diamond feels you could extend this metaphor to say - cut = presentation (social); quality = core; shape = physical. In this way, the situation (light) and the perspective (angle, distance, expertise, visual aid) of the person viewing the diamond will also influence their perception and appreciation of you and your core (the diamond).

For me, at this stage of my journey, the core is most important to me. I am also playing/experimenting with my presentation and making a number of physical changes. I need to be careful as I know that the wrong cut, the wrong setting and the wrong situation/light/audience and my diamond will lose its brilliance and need to be remade.

SJ, you are the diamond and you have a large say in how you present and change. Just how you do this, when you do this, is up to you, as you are also the jeweller and best know your truth, audience and best path.

Not sure that this makes a lot of sense but do hope that it helps.

Safe travels

Aisla

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Dec 3, 2014 1:43:40 GMT 8 @julieblair said:

Always remember that: "square cut or pear shaped these rock won't lose their shape, diamonds are a girl's best friend"

I'm more like jello than crystalline glitter with hard edges. I morph constantly, have a pleasing color, am sweet, and jiggle when I jog without support

I shouldn't go there but since I know you and we've been together a few times, yes you surly would. Careful girl, you don't want to knock yourself out! 

[Taka]

i don't jog without support, but have only recently found something that can stop the jiggling (feels like wearing a straight jacket). size really does matter...


people tend to get stuck up on the physical.
say you are what you were born as. in outer genitals' appearance.
and then they start getting weird about things not matching up.
a guy with gynecomastia is acceptable, a woman with a flattened chest is acceptable. those don't make you any less of your birth sex.
unless you make the grave mistake of presenting differently...! yeah, that would be bad.
except for a woman of course. she'll be a woman no matter what. doesn't even get the privilege of being called derogatories that suggest she's more of the opposite sex. (wow, sexism really shows how strong it is here)

but for the person who is transitioning, the physical doesn't have to be connected to the identity itself.
the wishes for physical change is seen as evidence of a different gender identity, but it really isn't as simple as that.
i for one, don't want to become a man fully and wholly. i mean, i want that too, but not strongly or often enough to go there (yet).
i have problems with chest and periods. they're annoying, unnecessary, serve no purpose, give me weird dysphoric feelings.
but it feels more like these things are wrong as in they don't fit my body. not in the way of gender.
my gender identity is perfectly ok with my chest, most of the time. periods don't bother it. only the reason for periods are a bother, the hormone swings. they're death to me.

whatever my naked physical appearance ends up as, it will most likely be a compromise.
i can't be a perfect hermaphroditic being. it's still medically impossible as much as i've always wanted it.
didn't spontaneously grow a penis either. some disappointment.
the other alternative is androgynous in the more sexless sense. it's not as good, but at the same time better.
i'll be lacking parts, but those can be attached at will. fake ones, without sensation.

but my brain rejects my body the way it is now.
something doesn't fit, everything is wrong.

the core wants it all. like at least four or eight or sixty-four alternatives.
maybe it's seven or thirteen though.
i miss having a tail, and not only on the front side.

presentation is as it is. just a mask to show the world.
conforming more or less with all kinds of different stereotypes.
my clothing is not always female. not that male clothing makes me look male, i don't have the right body for that.
but that doesn't bother me. only thing that bothers me is if people start telling me that a girls can't or should or must.
or try to dictate colors. my hair is naturally blue/green. period.
and don't you ever dare tell me what i can or can't wear. unless it's for professional purposes.
i know how to dress professionally, though the hair color won't change.

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Gee, I wanna jiggle

jiggle bell jiggle bell going all the way

Oh this girl is just gettng nuts tonight.

Jiggle giggles.

Not to lessen my dear Taka's dilemma, not at all. Just, wow.

This is one of the things I adore about this place, the dialogue between the female bodied born and the male bodied born is like noplace else in the transgendered world. At least, the world that I know. It is very special, priceless. Of enormous value.


Helpful comments here, food for thought.

[Ayla]

Feeling lonely in Oz. If this house isn't built soon I will be coming to visit and may just stay a while.

[Whisper]

Psychology measure things in amount of distress, functionality, and persistance between physical, social, anf core gender