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Post by Quin on Feb 19, 2015 6:27:04 GMT 8
nice... 30k is too long. then what about gene manipulation? could i create slightly more monstrous predators with that? like a saber tooth lynx or something. or that combined with breeding. i wonder what would motivate anyone to create something more dangerous, but could it be done in the future? If creatures were specifically created for wartime efforts, that would be an excuse to have some pretty nasty critters running amok. If they're the product of purposeful genetic engineering, you don't need to worry about the feasibility of having evolved, since they were designed. They could just be left over from wars fought, after they escaped and bred in the wild.
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Post by Annys on Feb 19, 2015 7:41:15 GMT 8
Yeah, when it comes to this genre, it's really easy to accomplish anything at all (really, ANYTHING) because "magic/technology did it." The biggest problem with doing so, however, is that it is REALLY EASY to write things off as "magic did it", and that gets stale fast. That's part of why it's so important to explain the "science" in these stories.
It's also really easy to get around the specifics, though, by giving your people legends or mythology they developed when all these monstrous creatures started appearing. Heck, maybe they think "the Gods" did it, or aliens, or whatever.
As long as you give SOME reason why Earth would be so different so fast, it really doesn't even have to be "what actually happened." Everyone on the planet could be completely wrong about where these things came from.
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Post by Quin on Feb 19, 2015 12:23:49 GMT 8
Yeah, when it comes to this genre, it's really easy to accomplish anything at all (really, ANYTHING) because "magic/technology did it." The biggest problem with doing so, however, is that it is REALLY EASY to write things off as "magic did it", and that gets stale fast. That's part of why it's so important to explain the "science" in these stories. . Agreed, yeah. I think that the important thing is just to establish the rules of what science and technology can and cannot do within your story, then stick to the rules unless there's a really compelling reason to break them. That helps to avoid a lot of the deus ex machina that makes readers roll their collective eyes.
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Post by Taka on Feb 19, 2015 14:02:07 GMT 8
mm yeah. deus ex machina is annoying. i'm not really planning a war, just an adventure, and a mystery. mage technology might be based on magic that was eventually lost. that would make people with real magic stronger, if they can just understand the technology. that would end up as a school story...
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Post by EchelonHunt on Feb 19, 2015 19:40:26 GMT 8
If you wanted to wipe out, say, certain countries... you could expand on a real life issue. One that is currently happening in Australia right now is imported frozen berries from China were contaminated with hepatitis A. There are already a handful of people across the country infected and they have taken the products off the shelves and all consumers who have the products are asked to take it back to the supermarket to get a refund.
If you wanted to go even further, you could infect imported food with the bubonic plague, anthrax or any of contained diseases that would quickly spread but may not necessarily kill right away... don't want to raise suspicion too soon, do we?
If you haven't already, Interstellar is probably one of the first sci-fi films that I firmly believe could become a reality at some point.
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Post by Ativan Prescribed on Feb 20, 2015 5:42:58 GMT 8
Other than we have a war with nukes, disease is the most likely thing that will wipe out most people, maybe all. It could be man made or not. It could easily spread, mutate as it went, defying attempts to control it.
There is a bacteria that has come up that is next to impossible to stop and is very lethal, there are a possible couple hundred people infected right now from medical equipment. It also showed up in another area of the country, both in the SE part of the US. A lung infection, starts with congestion and that.
I had an infection like that not to long ago, they couldn't identify the bacteria and I had to go through a Z pack, and then Cipro at Anthrax levels a couple times. I was pretty much bacteria free from that, all the good ones killed off as well. I could still have it dormant in me. Really screwed up my guts for a few months. Not any fun at all.
Had one before that, a tiny scratch, not even an eight inch, my hand blew up like a rubber glove looks like blown up, in a couple days. It popped when a Dr was looking at it and they put me in surgery right there, had to call in the surgical team, it was late in the day. Filleted my hand and two fingers. I spent a few days on a morphine drip and some anti-bacterial stuff you can only get in an IV for 5 days. I was in isolation for the first four days, they did the whole spacesuit thing. Pretty weird thing to see all messed up on morphine. They sent a sample to the CDC and it never was identified, as far as I know. They never got back to me about it. Two months of physical therapy. My hand had to heal from the inside out, so it was packed with saline soaked gauze a couple times a day for a little over two weeks. They did two cuts down to the palm of my hand from the top, between the tendons and bones as well as two fingers. Five hours of sucking puss out. Some Drs get all the fun jobs, ya know? On top of that, while under, one side of my heart decided to beat wrong, so it was basically beating backwards. On the fifth day, literally an hour before they were going to stop it and then hope it restarted and beating right, (Getting a few hundred joules through you hurts like hell) it flipped by itself. It still flips for a couple minutes every once in a while. So I kind of worry about bacterial infections. Had a UTI not to long ago as well. An ordinary one, it was easy to take care of, but still... They couldn't identify that one either, but I found out that there are hundreds of infections like that, unidentified. They go by the type that it is and hope whatever works, will kill it off or make it go dormant. Dormant is common I guess. Scary stuff to me.
Ebola is still spreading, despite what they say, it is under control in the old infected counties, but it is moving out in a ring still. That has the very real potential of mutating as it spreads. It could die out from it, it could become more lethal.
Myself, I'm going with the idea that dinosaurs did develop one species that became intelligent enough to see the destruction coming and left the planet. They are back, taking a look around. The reptilians of the conspiracy theories. Kinda pulls together the entire political spectrum of the world, as well as UFO's, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 4:51:02 GMT 8
The thing is you probably don't want to write a story based on hard science, because unless you understand the science it won't be beliveable. The trick is to figure out the rules of the world, make them work and stick to them
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 20:55:30 GMT 8
So my reply is that if you realistically want all the white people to die, possibly you should not choose the northern tip of norway as the last enclave of humanity - if anyone lives, good chance you will be breeding a super race consisting mainly of white people. Possibly a better choice is a Fijian island or some other polynesian island, or maybe the southern tip of Africa. Even St Helena is a good idea, it is the middle of nowhere and has no reason to be destroyed. Just saying perhaps Norway is not a good choice.
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Post by Sisyphus on Apr 24, 2015 11:21:06 GMT 8
Could you use an future predicated particle accelerator disaster? Perhaps an unexpected particle collides with a little understood particle? Perhaps a fictional particle in a non-fictional particle setting. Given the limits on our knowledge it might create some leeway to invent how this imaginary particle might react - rippling across the world, wreaking disasters that seems random but has patterns, much like a flower or snowflake or river flow, wiping out most people, perhaps influencing the fabric of space time such that some people are folded into it and protected, as are random technologies, while others are destroyed; perhaps animal species get folded into time pockets in which their experience is 30,000 years and evolve naturally, but to others in disjointed time pockets they interact with and experience each animal species relativistically, ie perhaps a "deer" experiences its 100,000 years in ratio to a preserved human species, such that humans would feel only months had past. Perhaps a twist would be that the humans don't even realize that their pets aren't the same pets, but the progeny of the progeny of the progeny, and that the animals are used to a once in a lifetime contact with humans, and evolve to respond to the strange but fleeting affection or death a given human brings. Perhaps different geography groups get folded into different time pockets running along each other, so most white people have simply gone extinct from being trapped in an accelerated time pocket of a billion years created by a dimple in the space time fabric from the particle spray into the energy-matter conversion axis (e=mc^2).
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Post by Taka on Jun 22, 2015 5:00:22 GMT 8
i've kind of changed the story a little, what i thought first wasn't really going to work the way i wanted it to.
so i'll let magic be the reason for destruction. just go all out fantasy, and create a world where natural energies run havoc upon the earth with the aid of great mages, and somehow most of people are eliminated since science starts self destructing and all. will be interesting to have a world where electricity can be generate, but not controlled the way we do now. and burning fossile fuel would invite disaster.
doesn't have to be logical. let's just go back to the old world of legends for a few decades, then use a couple centuries to establish a new world order half based on fantasy technology. and let some kids find ancient records of the real old magic that once created the world, and other times nearly destroyed it... would be interesting. much more interesting than an almost completely desolate world.
i'd like to say that not all norwegians identify as "white". in the north, there's an indigenous people who may have lots of white genes mixed in, but still stick with the old ways. a completely different ethnicity, absolutely not as white as some people's skin looks.
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