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Post by Iona on Jan 14, 2021 12:05:17 GMT 8
Was that the written statement that was released today? I doubt that'll have much effect, it clearly having been written by someone else. He would actually have to say the words - but even then it would still be too little too late, and only affect little more. Turns out he did actually say the words - I'd add the link but I'm sure no one wants to see any more of him. But yes, I doubt it'll have much impact - and he still hasn't acknowledged that the election was fair and biden won. Without that, the "condemnation" seems pretty empty.
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Post by Yuki on Jan 14, 2021 12:34:53 GMT 8
Unfortunately, I know that quite a few of his followers are planning more violence over the next few days, supposedly starting around the 16th or something and ending with the 20th, I believe. With or without Trump's consent, these people don't care anymore, they're just angry.
Luckily, they don't know how to organize or do anything properly, so hopefully it'll be easy to shut them down. Their little website got hacked and the posts inciting violence got sent to the FBI, along with names. Plus a lot of the ones that were at the Capitol are on no fly lists and everything, now.
So hopefully their plans just end up fizzling out. I haven't heard anything new about it in a few days from any of the people that are trying to keep a close eye on this group. They did just lose their main line of communication with each other, lol.
But no, they aren't the kind of people to listen to Trump now if he tells them to calm down. They'll just get mad at him for betraying them now, or whatever.
I didn't read back too far in this thread, but have you all heard about them thinking there's going to be "10 days of darkness" and/or martial law where all communications will go down, and then afterwards, Trump will magically communicate with them again to tell them what to do next? These people are unpredictable at this point.
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Post by Leena on Jan 14, 2021 13:52:53 GMT 8
To a lot of those people, it's really not about Trump, it's about having a bigot in power. That's about to change, and they've tried many things to prevent it from happening and failed so far. I wouldn't be surprised of much of anything at this point, other than a calm and peaceful next week.
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Post by Ativan Prescribed on Jan 14, 2021 14:13:44 GMT 8
But but what are they going to do with all the costumes and fake military gear and even the real gear they invested in because you know, they voted and it didn't matter, life goes on and they are now the ones really left behind. How come the country isn't behind them all the way, they called themselves patriots for gods sake, why isn't the country behind them and joining in with the Q, the great mystery is about to be explained and they are all waiting. Kinda like those people who all show up at the designated spot because ET's are coming to take them to the promised land of another galaxy far far away.... I see it this way, you know how stupid the average person can be? Consider that half the people are stupider than that. Like 74 million of them stupid, they lost and yet somehow they are the true believers of some sort of stupidity. That the over 80 million who won can't be smarter than them... It's easy to spot the stupid, they always think they are smarter. But the ones who aren't smarter, they can't figure out that they aren't. It's the smart people who have figured it out, and have nothing to bitch about, its the stupid who think it is a something, a thing that keeps them on that side of the aisle, can't be them, they aren't that stupid. They are angry because they aren't smart enough to figure it out, they know something is wrong, but it can't be them, they just can't figure that out.
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Post by Trinity on Jan 14, 2021 23:34:06 GMT 8
Unfortunately, I know that quite a few of his followers are planning more violence over the next few days, supposedly starting around the 16th or something and ending with the 20th, I believe. With or without Trump's consent, these people don't care anymore, they're just angry. Luckily, they don't know how to organize or do anything properly, so hopefully it'll be easy to shut them down. Their little website got hacked and the posts inciting violence got sent to the FBI, along with names. Plus a lot of the ones that were at the Capitol are on no fly lists and everything, now. So hopefully their plans just end up fizzling out. I haven't heard anything new about it in a few days from any of the people that are trying to keep a close eye on this group. They did just lose their main line of communication with each other, lol. But no, they aren't the kind of people to listen to Trump now if he tells them to calm down. They'll just get mad at him for betraying them now, or whatever. I didn't read back too far in this thread, but have you all heard about them thinking there's going to be "10 days of darkness" and/or martial law where all communications will go down, and then afterwards, Trump will magically communicate with them again to tell them what to do next? These people are unpredictable at this point. There's been 5 years of darkness, and the darkness continues to spread. The biggest danger, at least to me, is it spreading into the mind.
I started the morning very well, and then some idiot got on the news in another room and I heard them spouting off about how acceptance of nonbinaries was going to destroy the family unit, and it had to be stopped, etc.
In republican controlled Florida, we have one of the worst of the state reps trying to pass legistlation that jails doctors for treating trans people under 21.
The darkness is still very dark and fear still possesses the land, and hate, and retaliation.
For me, personally, my mental sanity is of the utmost importance during this dark time, it is imperative to me to love all unconditionally, to gently speak the truth of who we are, to take the power away from the hate and the fear with a soft, loving word or action, but underneath there is a sword that is defensive only, the sword of truth, and also physically to protect from the madness around us.
It took me a half hour of prayer this morning to restabilize, and I am still wounded, they don't heal well after 60 years of abuse, but I am much farther ahead than I was.
I find it odd that they talk about cancel culture, and I don't even know what that is or means, yet, it was the Trump administration that attempted fervently to erase trans, and with much success.
I fear that we are the next battleground and it will be all out persecution for us, Trump was an idiot, if these people get the right person behind them with a similar agenda, there is a real danger that we could wind up in trouble again, for as long as they demonize trans and NB and perceive us as a threat based on their fear of change, acceptance, and a new testament theology instead of this sanhedrinistic one they have bought into.
God is love, unconditional love, soul healing love, and He won't be mocked. Trump and the current movement mocks God, because it hurts the innocents, rewards hate, and uses His name to do it.
Wrong person to mess with, how He deals with it will be up to Him, but many are now in a lot of trouble spiritually emotionally and in other ways.
I see these idiots abusing their second amendment rights and that right being taken away from us all, leaving us easy prey to evil and those who would invade to do harm, and that gets up close and personal to me based on my past history and the harm done to my family which was extreme and still goes on. I sure hope that these fools don't do that. But if I had to, and someone ever tried to come in and take the life of my wife or kids, they won't survive, I don't care if I have to do it with a butter knife.
That's my fear speaking now. I am very afraid, and I have my own instructions Hollywood called yesterday, and the day before, and I had to tap dance around it, I will not be used as a pawn in any way to promote either hate or extremism of any kind, I will continue to develop my own work, my own art, my own writing, my own kindness according to however God wishes to use me, but above all, it has to be birthed of love.
I am afraid I am a bit jaded right now, I really don't like anything that I am seeing, but I am hopeful that our rights will be protected. I want a return to compassion, and end to violence, freedom to worship as people please, and an end to people messing with other peoples lives.
And the bullying and bigoty, that has so got to go, but they don't know how to do it, you don't do it with more bullying, you win them over to another way, so they become protectors of the weak, its a battle of the mind, and for the heart.
And our leadership doesn't have the faintest idea of how to win that war using love, they only know manipulation with fear and hate and greed. But I think there are exceptions and they need to speak out, and loudly, to turn this awful tide, this cancer that invaded our government, our media, and our hearts and minds and souls.
God Bless.
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Post by Leena on Jan 15, 2021 4:15:10 GMT 8
I find it odd that they talk about cancel culture, and I don't even know what that is or means, yet, it was the Trump administration that attempted fervently to erase trans, and with much success.
I fear that we are the next battleground and it will be all out persecution for us, Trump was an idiot, if these people get the right person behind them with a similar agenda, there is a real danger that we could wind up in trouble again, for as long as they demonize trans and NB and perceive us as a threat based on their fear of change, acceptance, and a new testament theology instead of this sanhedrinistic one they have bought into.
While some people might have felt forced to stay in the closet or go back in under Trump, others like myself were even more motivated to transition because of him.
Beyond the next week or so, it's really just up to Biden and the Democrats to not make the mistakes that led to losing Congress in 2010. Unless they get out the vote in 2022 like they did in Georgia last week, it will be and the Republicans might succeed in pushing that agenda nationwide. Until then though it will be something they talk about and do in red states.
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Post by Ativan Prescribed on Jan 15, 2021 10:08:43 GMT 8
A decade ago it was how gay was the evil that will destroy life as republicans think they know it. Then it was transgender, and guess what, nobody much cares about the fear mongering, its pretty laughable to most people, especially the people who laugh at the televangelists who are still saying to send them money and prayers to god, grifters all of them. They need someone to pin all the depraved bullshit they spew on a daily basis, they need the very same thing that the nazi did before WWII to rise in power, someone they could lie their ass's off about to make themselves look like they actually knew something. Its a pity that they use the bible to raise money for lavis homes and lifestyle, yachts to personal jets, a fleet of limousines for them and their families to be chauffeured in, they are the ones who are the evil this country and the world can live without. But given that the entire gay thing didn't work out after they made such a big deal, that transgender isn't working out for them, of course they have someone new to issue their end of times bullshit about, NB. But here's the thing, nobody is up in arms about NB or even fears us in society save for those who love to spread shit on others when it is their shot that stinks, the biggest complaint is that they can't readily identify anyone NB other than by standards that don't work. Is it the way we dress? No, that isn't an identifier so much as it is a fashion statement that many people make, is it the secret meetings we have about taking over the world? No, because that isn't a thing. Is it some sort of threat we make? No, because that just doesn't happen. It's that damn third category on DL I think that really sets them off. Society see's NB as just another group of people quietly going about their own business and because there isn't any trouble and because they can't readily say this person or that person is NB, most people could really give a shit, covid is a much bigger deal, the economy is a much bigger deal, everything else is a bigger deal, most people don't have an opinion one way or the other because having an opinion means you have to much time on your hands when everything else is more important, society really doesn't give a shit if you are NB or not, can you pay for your rent and food, can you get credit cards and have a job, do you have kids and parents and normal things like a cat and dog, do you pose a threat to anyone at all? No, so society has bigger issues like trumps supporters doing their rally cry(baby) shit and threatening to shoot up the country in a civil war. NB, just people. Seriously, what is the topic of conversation in the lines at the grocery store, anywhere... do you hear people going on and on about how life would be just fine if it wasn't for the damn NB ruining everything? No.
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Post by Ativan Prescribed on Jan 15, 2021 10:13:08 GMT 8
Face it, right wing propaganda just lost like the republicans lost the presidency, the house, the senate, even right wing news is taking a huge hit, it's changing its tune to try and stay relevant, but the lies, all the fucking lies from them are biting them in the ass right now and it doesn't look like they have any credibility left, because they lie lie lie. They are trying their best to make someone else look worse than they are, it isn't working.
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Post by Trinity on Jan 15, 2021 11:37:55 GMT 8
Face it, right wing propaganda just lost like the republicans lost the presidency, the house, the senate, even right wing news is taking a huge hit, it's changing its tune to try and stay relevant, but the lies, all the fucking lies from them are biting them in the ass right now and it doesn't look like they have any credibility left, because they lie lie lie. They are trying their best to make someone else look worse than they are, it isn't working. They are blaming the left for it.
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Post by Ativan Prescribed on Jan 15, 2021 11:56:46 GMT 8
And that lie is getting the no where, republican voters are not putting up with it, they want the truth not the lie on top of lie. They know they have lost it, that to declare yourself a trump supporter is like painting a target on yourself, they are backtracking big time. The stupidity of the shit that right wing news spews out is not being seen as anything more than trying to lay blame on someone else, as if those capitol marauders were anything but rightwing assholes. Nobody believes that it was bLM and antifa, and the ones who do believe it are the gullible and idiots, they have lost credibility. While the right wing is attempting to make themselves look good by placing blame on others, they just come across as even worse than the lies that got them where they are. They need to get over it and put on their big boy pants, stop being the buttercups they come across as. I mean how many of them want to be seen and know as a trump buttlicker? He's the biggest loser the country has seen in decades, to hang on to the rights stupidity that he made up for them to rally around, how many really think they are the better people for living out trumps lies and fantasy bullshit? To go out and wave a trump flag now just makes a person look like the idiots they are for doing that, nobody can take their shit seriously, even running around with a gun over your walmart military gear just makes you look like an idiot, it doesn't fool anyone.
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Post by Trinity on Jan 15, 2021 11:56:53 GMT 8
save for those who love to spread shit on others when it is their shot that stinks, Shit dabbing. Indian expression.
One of their better ones....
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Post by Ativan Prescribed on Jan 15, 2021 11:59:16 GMT 8
Notice that there is not a single person out on the whitehouse lawn talking to reporters? The propaganda machine from the whitehouse has shut down.
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Post by Leena on Jan 15, 2021 12:00:30 GMT 8
They are blaming the left for it.
Of course they are, because that's all they can do. Their policies don't actually help most of their base, so they blame things on groups of people that aren't white and cishet.
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Post by Trinity on Jan 15, 2021 12:03:44 GMT 8
They looked utterly clueless, like children. Which is why I get mad at the one that led them down that path, incented this, brainwashed this, spewed this.
It blows me away, its like they had no idea that they were doing anything wrong.
Incredible.
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Post by Trinity on Jan 15, 2021 12:06:05 GMT 8
Notice that there is not a single person out on the whitehouse lawn talking to reporters? The propaganda machine from the whitehouse has shut down. Half of them left, who wants to be associated with a president that incited an insurrection because he is such a stubborn loser? And then got so into his lies that he believes them himself?
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