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Post by Ayla on Jan 1, 2015 7:58:58 GMT 8
Alcorn's suicide is just so incredibly sad. Even though we have come a long way there is a stunning lack of awareness and support for our community.
The article draws attention to a new support group
Trans Lifeline opened up in November to provide a resource for transgender people with suicidal thoughts. In the US, the organization can be reached by phone at 877-565-8860.
Safe travels
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2015 7:59:44 GMT 8
This is heartbreaking. We or I, have suffered more through the church than anywhere else the source of the greatest strength and ally is instead used to perpetuate ignorance.
It happened again at work today, the legalistic belligerent bully starting in mocking ...homos... again. The rage I felt, took Cynthia a half hour to calm me down.
Regid thinking.
Poor kid, this is just horrible.
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Post by Laura J on Jan 1, 2015 9:51:24 GMT 8
I keep asking myself, wasn't there one person in this girls life she could turn to as an escape from the horror she felt inside.? I remember my parents also isolating me from everything as a punishment, or thinking it would somehow help me, and how it tortured me inside..
I know there are many young people in or near this situation, and I ask God if only he can put one of these kids on our doorstep, or a person like any of us here.? They might be saved.
Right now, this story is going viral, I must have seen it 100 times today on web pages.. Now it seems peoples anger and vengence is setting in, and I've read some of the most hateful comments towards the parents I've ever read.. Not even when they got Bin Laden, or Saddam Husien was there a fraction of the anger I've read for these 2 parents, the bible, Christians in general.. I can't listen to it anymore.. I pray for the parents, as much as the child.. The parents are the ones being tortured now, by many in the GLBT communty and everyone else, without any regard for their loss, as misgueded as they were.
I just feel such a loss, but not anger or hate towards anyone or blaming anyone.. I have to cover my eyes and ears anymore..
Such a tragady for everyone involved.. God bless them all..
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Post by Patty on Jan 1, 2015 11:34:38 GMT 8
This is a tragedy, if you go to the Huffington post transgender section there are also others. They were just reported with their given name and no one knew they were also transgender or it was not reported.Also one family totally changed her appearance and had a funeral for her displayed as a man. This is all horribly tragic and my heart aches for them all. Patty
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2015 22:00:09 GMT 8
How do we change an entire culture of hate and ignorance?
How do we get at the roots of it, where the misinterpretation of the Biblical truths are used to beat and destroy, causing the death of loved ones or others to be in bondage for years?
I will take it into the christianity thread now, but somehow, there has to be a shift from this intolerance. I triggered hard yesterday, it was the same bullshit, from someone I have absolutely no respect for now. A meddler, a person driven by hate and malice, who poses as Christian, yet has moments where they do actually show some light. And in spite of themselves, the shear force of standing up for who I am around them forces them to respect, at least to my face.
What they say elsewhere however is probably far from respect.
It has to change from within the Cistem. Right now that change is from martyred children of trans.
I am so sick of this crap, and will come face to face with it again soon.
Nails out hair down ....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2015 22:50:53 GMT 8
As I read the article initially and saw the angelic look on this chid's face I wondered how it is even possible for two parents to be so cold to their own flesh and blood child? If I had remained the transphobic-homophobe that I once was in my earlier life I still couldn't possibly react like that to my child and would have at least begun getting the entire family extensive counseling in an effort to understand and in the finale analysis I would have to concede to the reality surrounding my child and accept the facts and proceed to meet my child's needs. I don't understand these parents, they are inhuman to the core and hell is even too good for their ilk! (puke)
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Post by Laura J on Jan 1, 2015 22:55:21 GMT 8
I'm so sorry hun, I read you hint at your bad day yesterday, but I didn't realize the extent.?
Yeah, this last trans teen suicide has truely broken some hearts.. It's also caused a lot of anger to come out as well, which has bothered me greatly. Just minutes ago my good friend, and mother of a trans supermodel told me how broken up over this she is, and basically is asking why the church and people in it can let this happen.?
I have no answers for anyone.?
There just seems a cross section of older, very traditional thinking Christians who won't or can't see the truth about us, that we're not evil, and choosing this rebelous life.?
But many churches are embracing LGBT folks, welcoming us, and loving us without feeling the need to change us..
I feel some people have stopped thinking for themselves, and just rely on old misguided information they were taught early on, teachings that are just as damaging now as they were then.
I'm so sorry, I can only console and pray for guidence after this happened. If only someone could have reached through to this girl before it was too late.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2015 23:15:24 GMT 8
I never blame the churches or the scriptures for this, I blame the basic defect in a fallen human race which is enshrined in [Self]. Selfishness, the I, I and me, me that caused the greatest angelic being to say "I will set my throne above the throne of God" has become ingrained in the basic nature of every human being, the crux of the problem is manifest as we act on that propensity.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 2:20:00 GMT 8
I am fine.
Just furious, decades of abuse triggered, by someone that was like those that shaped my life for 40 years, to live behind a mask. Mask is off. They can deal with it or run, i am sick of this bullshit abuse by anyone.
No worries.
The next generation may well overcome these obstacles. And there are those in the church that will too. There needs to be a revolution in the church to bring it back to the raw state it was in when Jesus walked among us. Controversial... confrontational, and raw love and power, feeding the hungry, helping others, showing a way out of misery.
But this suicide is not about that, it is about the awful suicide and tragic loss of yet another due to blown parenting and misguided ideas. Terrible.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 2:32:41 GMT 8
I am fine. Just furious, decades of abuse triggered, by someone that was like those that shaped my life for 40 years, to live behind a mask. Mask is off. They can deal with it or run, i am sick of this bullshit abuse by anyone. No worries. The next generation may well overcome these obstacles. And there are those in the church that will too. There needs to be a revolution in the church to bring it back to the raw state it was in when Jesus walked among us. Controversial... confrontational, and raw love and power, feeding the hungry, helping others, showing a way out of misery. But this suicide is not about that, it is about the awful suicide and tragic loss of yet another due to blown parenting and misguided ideas. Terrible. Yes and about two total abject failures as parents and as human beings.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 2:49:05 GMT 8
I am sure it has already destroyed their lives.
They can never escape the awful truth of it. It will haunt them till the end of time.
Hope the kid is in a better place and has their correct body now.
Bloody tragic, everyone loses.
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Post by Laura J on Jan 2, 2015 3:05:13 GMT 8
I don't know if this will add anything or not.? The last few lines may be the only good that comes from this tragedy..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 10:06:29 GMT 8
I should have kept my big mouth shut.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 23:21:22 GMT 8
In protest of this tragedy I just came out heavy here at work.
They got a girl with a beard to deal with now, in their faces.
So be it. I am beyond fury. No dress, but clearly female presenting with the beard.
50 years of abuse just exploded here. I don't care who I piss off. I have had it.
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